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<Steven> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/05/28-xhtml-minutes
<Steven> zakom, ??P8 is Alessio
<Steven> azkim, ??P8 is Alessio
<scribe> Scribe: ShaneM
<Steven> Chair: Roland
Alessio noted that this channel is no longer being publicly logged.
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/
Mark reviewed the XHR spec. It indicates there is a dependency on HTML5. however, the spec doesn't really bear this out except to indicate the window object should have an appropriate method.
Roland suggests that we send in a note and indicate that the XHTML 2 working group supports Mark's position.
Steven thinks that there are possibly another couple of weeks in the review period after the last HCG meeting.
Steven points out that there should be no dependency on HTML - anything could use XHR. XForms for example.
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/23-hcg-minutes
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/23-hcg-minutes#item07
<Steven> JB: Think we may need more time than 2 June.
<Steven> ... We have a f2f on 9th, so 15th would be a good extended deadline
<Steven> CMN: That would be fine.
<Steven> ... have not pinged i18n
<Steven> ... but will
Mark points out that there are multiple ways to create an XHR object independent of an XHR object. There is no real dependency on the window object.
<scribe> ACTION: ShaneM to send a formal response from the XHTML 2 Working Group about XHR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
We have an interest because of XML Events, XML Events 2, XHTML 1.1, etc.
Steven reports that we had a transition call with Steve Bratt and Chris Lilley. Went well. We were asked to transition to PR. ShaneM is updating the spec and implementation report. Steven is preparing the draft directors decision.
The directors decision needs to explain that the unaccepted comments were out of scope because we were not entertaining changes to modules in this revision.
Steven is drafting materials for comms.
ShaneM says he will have materials ready by CoB tomorrow.
We are meeting on Friday about it.
Steven has another implementation that supports inputmode and he is working with it.
However, Steve Bratt agreed that only one was required for the transition call.
The requirement is that there be an implementation of the feature... so having two would be a good thing.
<scribe> ACTION: Roland to add time on the f2f agenda for discussing aria integration with XHTML. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
Mark is concerned about the role values from the ARIA spec. He thinks there might be collisions with the values for ARIA attributes.
ShaneM thinks there is no overlap.
<scribe> ACTION: ShaneM to ensure that there is no overlap between our vocab# values and the rest of the ARIA stuff. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
Alessio has a page that has some findings but is not on IRC so cannot send us the URI.
<Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Apr/0087.html
There are some tests pointed to that will help us evaluate support for this frame architecture in existing user agents.
Roland asks whether we could get more examples up on the wiki and then work through them when Alessio has IRC access.
<scribe> ACTION: Alessio to put the writeup and examples up on the wiki so we can explore it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-xhtml-minutes.html#action04]
Alessio agrees this is somewhat tricky because we are using scripting to support the model. But we need something to test against.
Added inputmode to it
Need a normative definition of the Schema implementation for Ruby. We can include it in the 1.1 draft.
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/
Steven suggests that we tell the Ruby owners to update their spec with the Schema implementation as well.
ShaneM thinks an update to Ruby would just be a PER. I18N owns the spec, but the spec has an informative link to the DTD implementation now.
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/xhtml-ruby-1.mod
Our impl is at http:/'/www.w3.org/MarkUp/SCHEMA/xhtml-ruby-1.xsd
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to contact I18N group about updating Ruby. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-xhtml-minutes.html#action05]
original action item about updating Ruby complete.
<Roland> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-xhtml-minutes.html#action03
Still need that integration set example.... let's see if we can find that.
Note that this action is really related to M12N 1.1, not XHTML 1.1 SE
Yam asks if the M12N 1.1 transition effects XHTML Basic 1.1 at all?
No it does not./
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