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SVG Working Group Teleconference

21 May 2008

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Andrew, Erik, Doug, Anthony, Tony, Chris
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Andrew, Erik
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<trackbot-ng> Date: 21 May 2008

1.2 testsuite review

<scribe> Scribe: Erik

<scribe> scribeNick: ed

<aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-02-t.svg

ED: there's a typo: "the green test is rendered" should be "the green text is rendered"

AE: yes
... all ok with this test?

(WG) yes, this test is approved

DS: we need a better process for doing the testsuite
... we make a tool to create and approve tests, a webapp
... with three fields, the filename, a textbox for the code, and a textbox for the pass criteria and a textbox for description
... and a dropdown for which part of which spec it's testing. then you hit a button and it creates the test from the template
... and the testcreator initials
... and it also generates a reference image automatically, or you can upload a patchfile, once a test is created you can click on it to view it
... when you're viewing it you can mark it as reviewed, approved or add comments

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-01-t.svg

AE: approved?

(WG): yes

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-03-t.svg

(WG) also approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-event-209-t.svg

AG: should be using d:operatorScript

ED: well, should work there, will the testsuite generation scripts have a problem you mean?

AG: not sure
... i'll change the test description to match the other tests

AE: bitflash fails this, but I approve of this test
... so we need to verify the reference image once it's created

ED: batik should pass this one

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-203-t.svg

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg

ED: my last comment about getBBox and getScreenCTM should be made into a new test

AG: some id:s are not xml:id, willfix that

ED: Opera has some more extensive tests, that check bboxes on elements inside <defs>, with display:none etc...will look into donating those

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-203-t.svg

ED: the text has been made green, but the circles are green which makes the text impossible to read when it overlaps

AE: ok, will make circles yellow

AG: some id:s are not xml:ids

AE: ok, will fix that too

ED: the numbers go off the screen there

(WG) ok, with all changes the test is approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg

AG: some id:s are not xml:ids

CL: this should use an epsilon comparison

TZ: ok, will modify the test to do that
... and the id:s

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-237-t.svg

ED: i get overlapping text

AE: ok there are many subtests, and if you fail then it may overflow
... but if it passes everything is visible

AG: using id:s not xml:ids

ED: DOMException.name and .message are not in tiny I think

CL: make the animated line invisible

(WG) test approved

<scribe> ACTION: doug to write an automated test creation and editing framework [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2025 - Write an automated test creation and editing framework [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-28].

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-218-t.svg

ED: if you run the test locally this might give a security exception since it's accessing another domain

CL: yes, there should be a comment saying that you should run the servlet locally in these cases
... should have a new cvs directory for the servlet

ED: doesn't catch exceptions

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgrect-201-t.svg

AE: need epsilon comparisons

ED: it does setFloatTrait("x", 25) on a text element, is that allowed since it can be a list of values?

<scribe> ACTION: AE to clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2026 - Clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-05-28].

<scribe> ACTION: AE to calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2027 - Calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-05-28].

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/styling-inherit-01-t.svg

ED: doesn't have clear pass criteria

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/spec/mobile/1.2/1.2NG/publish/styling.html#PropertyInheritance

it's 6.7 not 6.15

6.7 Property inheritance and computation

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg

not approved yet, has issues in the resource ball.svg

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/types-basic-202-t.svg

<aemmons> types-basicDOM-02-t.svg

ED: would like the filename to be all lowercase

AG: the operatorscript needs to be changed

AE: ok, making those fixes now

renamed to http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-204-t.svg

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg

(WG) test approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-226-t.svg

ED: the test assumes getCurrentTime has some epsilon, but I'm not sure the spec says anything about the required resolution

AE: ok, now checking only the lower bound

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-202-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-236-t.svg

(WG) approve svgpoint-201

ED: there's no e.name or e.message

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg

<ChrisL> udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg needs text changed to red/green

ok, we'll do later edits to this file

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/script-element-203-t.svg

(WG) test approved

AE: we need a patchfile for the reference for this one

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-203-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a03-t.svg

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a-03-t.svg

ED: add explicit pass criteria

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-206-t.svg

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-204-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/extend-namespace-02-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-216-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-232-t.svg

AE: uses e.name, e.message

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-230-t.svg

AE: e.name again

ED: I'd like some time to look at this test

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/media-audio-215-t.svg

(WG) approved

AE: we need to find another soundclip though
... and we need to generate a reference image for this

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg

<scribe> postponed

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg

AG: same problems as previous one, I'll fix it

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-203-t.svg

ED: local -> external domain security thing again

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg

<shepazu> here is the php script for the server access tests: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/resources/http_php.txt

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg

ED: can fail a subtest but still show "passed"

AG: there's no frame around the test

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg

<scribe> postponed again

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg

ED: unclear pass criteria

<scribe> postponed

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-202-t.svg

AG: using old template, needs update

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-09-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-225-t.svg

CL: has red-green dots, but not red-green text

(WG) approved

we need to generate the reference for this

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-201-t.svg

<scribe> ACTION: CL to update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2028 - Update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-05-28].

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-234-t.svg

AE: e.name, e.message

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-231-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg

(WG) approved

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgcolor-201-t.svg

(WG) approved

AG: needs to have xml:ids

<ChrisL> AE fixes

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: AE to calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: AE to clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: CL to update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: doug to write an automated test creation and editing framework [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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