Weekly Forms WG Teleconference

12 Mar 2008


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wellsk, Charlie, John_Boyer, ebruchez, Leigh_Klotz, Roger, +1.703.368.aaaa, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, markbirbeck, Steven
Uli, Rafael




<John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0030.html

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<John_Boyer> 3137304

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0012.html

<nick> can someone give me the conference id

<nick> thansks

<Steven> hi

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0030.html

<Steven> sure as hell

the conf id is really 36767?

it tells me "conf not in session"

3137304 in fact

<Charlie> 3137304

<Steven> Your Web browser does not meet the requirements

<Steven> for joining a presentation.""

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0013.html

<klotz> <repeat name="order" nodeset="row">

<klotz> <select1 name="Product"> ...

<klotz> <input name="Quantity"> ...

<klotz> <input name="Price"> ...

<klotz> <output name="LineTotal" calculate="Price * Quantity"/>

<klotz> </repeat>

<klotz> <output name="Subtotal" calculate="sum(order/row/LineTotal)"/>

<klotz> <output name="Tax" calculate="Subtotal * 0.07"/>

<klotz> <output name="Total" calculate="Subtotal + Tax"/>

<John_Boyer> <output name="LineTotal" calculate="$Price * $Quantity"/>

<John_Boyer> <repeat name="order" nodeset="row">

<xforms:bind name="order" nodeset="order">

<xforms:bind name="product" nodeset="product"/>

<xforms:bind name="unitCost" nodeset="unitCost"/>

<xforms:bind name="qty" nodeset="qty"/>

<xforms:bind name="lineTotal" nodeset="lineTotal" calculate="$unitCost * $qty"/>


<xforms:bind name="subtotal" nodeset="subtotal" calculate="sum($lineTotal)"/>

<xforms:bind name="tax" nodeset="tax" calculate="$subtotal * 0.07"/>

<xforms:bind name="total" nodeset="total" calculate="$subtotal + $tax"/>

<nick> I think it creates

<nick> <xf:bind id="order" nodeset="row">

<nick> <bind id="quantity" nodeset="quantity"/>

<nick> </xf:bind>

<John_Boyer> I think that's not quite right, Nick

<John_Boyer> because <repeat bind="???">

<nick> why does <xf:repeat bind="order"> not work?

<John_Boyer> because repeat needs to bind to the set of rows, not the order

<xforms:bind name="order" nodeset="order">

<xforms:bind id="order" nodeset="order">

<xforms:repeat name="order" id="orderTable">

<xforms:repeat bind="order" id="orderTable">

<John_Boyer> <repeat name="order" nodeset="row">

<John_Boyer> <bind id="order" nodeset="order/row"> ...

<nick> sorry missed it John

<nick> <xf:group bind="order">

<nick> <xf:repeat bind="row">

<nick> <input bind="quantity">....




<unitCost> 0</unitCost>

<qty> 0</qty>

<lineTotal> 0</lineTotal>




<unitCost> 0</unitCost>

<qty> 0</qty>

<lineTotal> 0</lineTotal>


<subtotal> 0</subtotal>

<tax> 0</tax>

<total> 0</total>


<John_Boyer> <repeat name="order" nodeset="row">

<John_Boyer> <repeat name="order" thingIamRepeating="row"

<John_Boyer> What you're saying is that there would be no containing element

<John_Boyer> <data> <order>ppql</order><order>ppql</order> ... <subtotal>...</data>

<John_Boyer> <repeat name="row">

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0013.html

<nick> but does how to translate an html form to xforms needs to be specified by the us, i.e. I don't think it should be part of the XForms spec

<nick> I do believe we need a simpler format

<nick> There are already browsers that support repeat in html forms, and users already use it, so we should if we want to support html forms also support that pattern, (I don't belief we should do that)

<klotz> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0043.html

there is a very noisy line

<nick> the only 'problem' with Erik's variables is that you can't refer to all the lineTotal nodes only the one in the current row

<nick> I mean inside the repeat

<nick> if you want to calculate for example the percentage of a value compared to all the rows

<nick> I understand why it solves the PO form

<John_Boyer> Nick asks "what if you have a column in a repeat that wants to show a percentage contribution over the whole table"

<John_Boyer> calculate="sum(../$LineTotal)"

<John_Boyer> ?

<John_Boyer> Can't do, OK.

<John_Boyer> Variables values can be decided relative to context node of whole expression, not context within expression

<John_Boyer> <output name="Subtotal" calculate="sum($LineTotal)"/>

<John_Boyer> <output name="Subtotal" calculate="sum(row/LineTotal)"/>

<klotz> level("row")/LineTotal

<Steven> I will have trouble staying to 18:30

<Steven> 18:15 is already hard

<Steven> Yes

either way work fine for me

7: 45 AM is tough for us here though ;-)

<klotz> We had 7am calls for nearly 5 years.

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