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<trackbot> Date: 27 February 2008
<scribe> Scribe: Carmelo
<scribe> ScribeNick:Carmelo
<TL> Here I am.
TL: Changes his name to Travis
DS: We decided not to talk about
Key events
... We need to decide how to handle keyboards and that sort of
things
... Lets start with Double Click
<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0050.html
AS: Two issuus Regarding Doubing Click
DS: Can u summarize?
AS: Should the detail value be
for Double Click?
... Consensus is should be teh same as click
... Described and explained teh link above
TL: Can an example be provid?
R: detail for double click will be the same a the click
<aemmons> RESOLUTION: detail for double click will be the same a the click
<aemmons> RESOLUTION: We accept the current wording in the spec regarding what the current click count means
<shepazu> ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-03-05].
DS: We are finish with double Click
DS: Let's review the DoubleClick Test
<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html
<shepazu> test 1: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html
DS; If red shown in the test it means failure
DS: Green usually a pass
... Instruction For each test
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-247 - Provied test template [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].
DS: Test should work on every
Browser
... Test should figure out if person Double Click
... How can we actually check for that?
... We should make a framework for the test
<scribe> ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add listener events. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-248 - Give us a script library that will add listener events. [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].
<shepazu> ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-249 - Provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].
DS: We will build a script layer for testing
Carmelo: How critical is add eventListener?
DS: mmmm not sure?
TL: addEventListener is one of
the key pieces different from implementations
... Another piece that is different Scope of the event object
itself
TL; Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on
TL: Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on
<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0164.html
AE: Above link is an SVG version of the NIST test
AS: Lets Move on
DS: Ok
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/122
TL: ALT key events is sometimes
loose.
... Explained the issue and the scenarios for "ALT"
handling
DL: propoesed two options
sub/DL/TL/
sub /DL/TL/
DS: Thsi behavious is somehow
address in DOM 3 events
... maybe this should be on next week's agenda
DS; None of this should be dependent on any OS
DS: We cna have a non- normative appendix for somer key sequences
TL: That will be a good place for
this (some key sequences)
... Was the difference of behaviour in OS's was somewhat
expected?
<scribe> ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the \"alt\" key). [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].
Resolution: We will provide a model for event order and provide an informative appendix with major known exceptions to this model.
DS: Next week we will talk about
key event sequence models
... Please provide things tht we think need to be
solved
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-251 - Provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].
DS: mousewheel event should be
derive from mouse event .
... Another issue Some mousewheels let navigate on
non-orthogonal directions.
... How to recognize single direction with multiple direction
devices.
TL: Is it possible to keep a single event aned derive the others?
DS: Yes that is basically what omnievent is trying to accomplish.
AS: Was happy with Travis single event idea as it simplifies context
<shepazu> Resolution: remove multimousewheel, put additional dimensional delta values on mousewheel
<Hixie> wow, after the months of telecons we spent on multimousewheel, we're removing it again?
<Hixie> i'm sure glad i don't both attending telecons anymore
<shepazu> Hixie, we're going to send a proposal to the list, we think we have a better model
<Hixie> cool
<shepazu> ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Send mousewheel proposal to list [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].
DS: What are useful things to
test on double click?
... the only normative thing we can say about click count is
that there is a click count
... That can be tested
<shepazu> trackbot: adjourn
<shepazu> trackbot, adjourn
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