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Web API WG Teleconference
27 Feb 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Carmelo, Andrew_Emmons, Doug, Travis
Regrets
Chair
Doug
Scribe
Carmelo

Contents


 

 

<trackbot> Date: 27 February 2008

<scribe> Scribe: Carmelo

<scribe> ScribeNick:Carmelo

<TL> Here I am.

TL: Changes his name to Travis

DS: We decided not to talk about Key events
... We need to decide how to handle keyboards and that sort of things
... Lets start with Double Click

DoubleClick

Double Click

<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0050.html

AS: Two issuus Regarding Doubing Click

DS: Can u summarize?

AS: Should the detail value be for Double Click?
... Consensus is should be teh same as click
... Described and explained teh link above

TL: Can an example be provid?

R: detail for double click will be the same a the click

<aemmons> RESOLUTION: detail for double click will be the same a the click

<aemmons> RESOLUTION: We accept the current wording in the spec regarding what the current click count means

<shepazu> ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-03-05].

DS: We are finish with double Click

lets differ wheels to next week

DS: Let's review the DoubleClick Test

<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html

dblclick Tests

<shepazu> test 1: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html

DS; If red shown in the test it means failure

DS: Green usually a pass
... Instruction For each test

<scribe> ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-247 - Provied test template [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].

DS: Test should work on every Browser
... Test should figure out if person Double Click
... How can we actually check for that?
... We should make a framework for the test

<scribe> ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add listener events. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-248 - Give us a script library that will add listener events. [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].

<shepazu> ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-249 - Provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].

DS: We will build a script layer for testing

Carmelo: How critical is add eventListener?

DS: mmmm not sure?

TL: addEventListener is one of the key pieces different from implementations
... Another piece that is different Scope of the event object itself

TL; Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on

TL: Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on

<aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0164.html

AE: Above link is an SVG version of the NIST test

AS: Lets Move on

DS: Ok

'alt'-key

<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/122

TL: ALT key events is sometimes loose.
... Explained the issue and the scenarios for "ALT" handling

DL: propoesed two options

sub/DL/TL/

sub /DL/TL/

DS: Thsi behavious is somehow address in DOM 3 events
... maybe this should be on next week's agenda

DS; None of this should be dependent on any OS

DS: We cna have a non- normative appendix for somer key sequences

TL: That will be a good place for this (some key sequences)
... Was the difference of behaviour in OS's was somewhat expected?

<scribe> ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the \"alt\" key). [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].

Resolution: We will provide a model for event order and provide an informative appendix with major known exceptions to this model.

DS: Next week we will talk about key event sequence models
... Please provide things tht we think need to be solved

<scribe> ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-251 - Provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].

mousewheel overview

DS: mousewheel event should be derive from mouse event .
... Another issue Some mousewheels let navigate on non-orthogonal directions.
... How to recognize single direction with multiple direction devices.

TL: Is it possible to keep a single event aned derive the others?

DS: Yes that is basically what omnievent is trying to accomplish.

AS: Was happy with Travis single event idea as it simplifies context

<shepazu> Resolution: remove multimousewheel, put additional dimensional delta values on mousewheel

<Hixie> wow, after the months of telecons we spent on multimousewheel, we're removing it again?

<Hixie> i'm sure glad i don't both attending telecons anymore

<shepazu> Hixie, we're going to send a proposal to the list, we think we have a better model

<Hixie> cool

<shepazu> ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Send mousewheel proposal to list [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].

DS: What are useful things to test on double click?
... the only normative thing we can say about click count is that there is a click count
... That can be tested

<shepazu> trackbot: adjourn

<shepazu> trackbot, adjourn

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add listener events. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04]
 
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