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Widgets Voice Conf (WAF WG)

14 Feb 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Art, Arve, Benoit, Dave, Claudio_(IRC)
Regrets
Chair
Art
Scribe
Art

Contents


 

 

<claudio> I'm in Lyon and I'm having troubles in connecting via phone to the bridge...

<claudio> roamin pains, I'm trying...

ok. with Marcos not present we will not have a formal meeting :-(

<arve> should we reschedule for another day, then?

<claudio> Would be nice for me...

<scribe> Scribe: Art

<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB

Date: 14 February 2008

Agenda Review

AB: without Marcos we won't do a deep dive on technical discussions

Annoncements

AB: I was hoping MikeSmith or Shepazu could provide an update on the WebApps WG Charter
... but neither is present :-(

Actions and Issues

AB: see http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/waf/

ABe: regarding Action #112, we have a proposal
... http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/waf/actions/112
... hope to submit it to the WG after I return from vacation at the end of the month

DP: is the model for Widgets connecting to the Web or does it also include accessing device APIs?

ABe: I can't talk about device related things
... but this model is about provisioning widgets i.e. uploading and downloading
... it describes a detailed URI-based model

AB: we have about 12 Actions open
... and we have about 5 Issues open

<marcos> Argh!

<marcos> coming!

<marcos> got stuck in traffic

<marcos> yep

<arve> bbiam

<arve> (needed more coffee)

MC: I am working on some of the Actions
... input at anytime from people is welcome

Landscape Document

AB: what's the status Marcos?

MC: it fullfills a need to understand the current landscape
... seems logical to move it out of the Requirements document
... also makes the Reqs doc easier to maintain

AB: I like this organization

<marcos> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-land/Overview.src.html

BS: I think the split makes sense
... not sure about the title regarding the precedence in the W3C

MC: any help with filling in the empty boxes would be appreciated

AB: it may be more appropriate to be WG Note rather than a Rec type doc

MC: that's OK with me

ABe: WG Note is a good way to go

BS: OK with me
... are any of the WG members providing information for this doc?
... e.g. I noticed something regarding Windows signature may not be accurate

MC: we've had some Members review but not all

AB: what's the next step toward publication?

MC: I think we'll need about one month to fill in the tables and to get a good format

AB: I think WG Notes are mainly considered 1-time publication
... not revised generally

<scribe> ACTION: Barstow talk to Mike Smith about WG Note vs Rec type doc for the Landscape doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/14-waf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-170 - Talk to Mike Smith about WG Note vs Rec type doc for the Landscape doc [on Arthur Barstow - due 2008-02-21].

BS: could wait for final pub to the end

Requirements doc

<marcos> http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-reqs/

<marcos> ooops

AB: latest ED is: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-reqs/
... Dave, please send your Feb 10 comments to the public mail list

DP: OK, will do

AB: remind everyone we need to respond to all comments whether the comments are from WG members or non-members

MC: I will respond to Dave's comments
... regarding Dave's first comment, it's good to hear Arve is working on a related input
... On Feb 4 I sent some comments re security
... Regarding device security, I'm waiting to see what the UWA WG is going to do
... I agree device API has security-related implications but it's not clear if we need to do anything here (in a normative way)

DP: yes, that seems OK with me for v1.0 and focus now on the packaging format as the #1 priority

<claudio> TI thinks We hould move a little further saying that Widgets support DCCI specification

BS: I agree about the priority of the packaging format but device API are important

DP: what about timeframes?

MC: I'd like to get to LC by November
... and Candidate in 1Q09
... but it all depends on WG participation and I'm concerned about the lack of inputs
... we've lost some steam and we need to get it back

AB: I agree with MC that we have to get some more momentum; the AC work has domintate my time and I'm sorry about that
... We can work in either mode -> VCs once per week or more distributed using e-mail like the AC work

BS: can we get more Members participating?
... e.g. Microsoft or Apple
... I also talked with Netvibes people

MC: everyone is in the WG but they aren't all participating

ABe: we've made most progress in the f2f meeting

<claudio> I can report a potential interest also from Alcatel Lucent

ABe: maybe we can explicity invite Apple, MS, NetVibes, to our f2f meeting

DP: I think if we complete the Reqs doc it can be used to entice people to participate

BS: some people don't understand if this work is for Web widgets only, Desktop widgets only, etc.
... this needs to be more clear
... Perhaps we need an inclusive f2f meeting or some type of web cast

DP: I think some of the reqs are a bit "woolly"
... agree we need the definition of Widgets must be very clear

AOB

AB: VC next week?

ABe: I would prefer two weeks from now

BS: that's OK with me

AB: next meeting Feb 28

MC: please send comments to the public mail list

BS: please include [widgets] in the Subject: header
... agree focusing the agenda on specific text or reqs would be good

ABe: agree

<claudio> Are We booking a date for next F2F?

AB: meeting adjourned

<scribe> ACTION: Barstow start a thread about a Widgets f2f meeting via the member mail list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/14-waf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-171 - Start a thread about a Widgets f2f meeting via the member mail list [on Arthur Barstow - due 2008-02-21].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Barstow start a thread about a Widgets f2f meeting via the member mail list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/14-waf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Barstow talk to Mike Smith about WG Note vs Rec type doc for the Landscape doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/14-waf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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