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hi vipul
<vipul> hi
edit this document: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Structural_Reference_Experiment
Anything is open - could rearrange order if necessary, add sections, etc.
old reference doesn't have a running example
also not sure it is desirable. Perhaps 2 or 3 different examples reused.
Problem is, using one example with every feature makes for a complicated example.
I'd like to see examples with inferences and possibly anti-examples showing common mistakes
for example rdfs:range in current reference doesn't show how use of a property causes a type to be inferred.
<dlm> +q
<IanH> We don't have a scribe. Do we need one?
<ewallace> I agree with Alan that it is not necessary to have a single example running through the whole spec.
<IanH> :-)
<dlm> +q
(define-ontology inconsistent-finite-infinite ()
(class !human :partial)
(class !woman :partial)
(class !man :partial)
(sub-class-of !man !human)
(sub-class-of !woman !human)
(disjoint-classes !woman !man)
(object-property !child)
(object-property !father (inverse-of !child))
(sub-class-of !human (restriction !father (all-values-from !man)))
(sub-class-of !human (restriction !father (cardinality 1)))
(sub-class-of !human (restriction !child (max-cardinality 1)))
(object-property !ssn :inverse-functional (range (one-of !one !two)))
(sub-class-of !human (restriction !ssn (cardinality 1)))
(individual !mary (type !woman))
(individual !one)
(individual !two)
)
I'm interested
<pfps> primer, overview, & reference?
<ewallace> Elisa talked about a quick start.
would like to understand what would be in the overview
disjointWith: Classes may be stated to be disjoint from each other. For example, Man and Woman can be stated to be disjoint classes. From this disjointWith statement, a reasoner can deduce an inconsistency when an individual is stated to be an instance of both and similarly a reasoner can deduce that if A is an instance of Man, then A is not an instance of Woman.
this was discussed at f2f.
<dlm> +1
<dlm> +q
for one thing, it's hard for a user to know where to go for definitive answers
suggestion wasn't to drop overview. Rather to define it so as to not have overlap. Overview should have distinct and clear point of view
http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/
<IanH> Do we want to convert the IRC into minutes?
<IanH> And if so what are the magic words?
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