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<shawn> scribe: Wayne
<shawn> Quick Ref draft: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20071211/Overview.php
Understanding WCAG 2.0 new format:
<shawn> Understanding single topic: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20071211/navigation-mechanisms-location.html
Wayne: I like it.
Andrew: This needs branding like
[or location indication]
... This could wait for review, but it should be fixed before publication to the general public.
<andrew> ACTION: Shawn - understanding - suggest masthead with at least 'understanding WCAG 2.0' + maybe W3C and WAI logos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action01]
Shawn: What do you think about navigation from this page?
Andrew: Navigation bar at the part is excessively criptic.
Shawn: Probably not top priority.
<andrew> ACTION: Shawn - understandoing - low priority - the spacing at the top of the page varies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action02]
Helle: The "into" seems clear.
<andrew> ACTION: Shawn - Understanding - consider changing "prev" to "previous" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action03]
<andrew> ACTION: Shawn - Understanding - consider changing "prev" to "previous" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action04]
WCAG 2.0 Last Call Working Draft Messaging
Andrew: The use of astris is used to provide bold in text email.
Justin: It does not get to the point quickly enough. No link to WCAG 2 is present.
Sharron: The call for review comes very late.
Jack & Helle: The date gets lost.
Helle: [the mechanism for
commenting is not easy to follow].
... The reminder of past comments is irrelevant.
Judy: The current draft message
emphasizes process over substance. It needs to be flipped
around and cut.
... The third paragaph on "Last Call" needs to be moved down.
Wayne: Ask for comments, give a way to comment and how to comment.
Judy: Thought exercise lets pull
up one for a different spec. How does this compair to a
... Look at the Formats and Portocols announcement for WAI ARIA. It must be briefer than posible for a "Last Call". Do people want to move in this direction.
Sharron: WCAG WG Invites you to review. Next [gives context]. Invites to review rather than comment.
Shawn: For additional feedback send you comments directly to Shawn.
<shawn> - Deliverables: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/charter4#deliverables
<shawn> - Meetings: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/charter4#meetings
Judy: Very back and forth... There some w3c limits on extending charters... The time urgency is probably. With an extension we will need to have this in in 2 months.
Jack: Why do we need to have one?
Judy: Work in W3C needs to be aproved by the advisory committee. The working has a clear discussion and documentation of its scope. Interested members of the public can look at the charter. Once it has been don well. Does it need to be rewritten each 2 years.
Jack: Is this just the AC checking the Charter for regular review, or are we changing.
Judy: This is routine; there is no threat.
Helle: Will we have to reniew the invited expert.
Shawn: There is new IExp language.
Judy: It is individual, but now it has to be reviewed.
Shawn: We will look at Deliverables and Meetings. The language should be reduced from 4 fact to face per year.
Helle: W3C team participation
... Will WAI AGE be included.
Sharron: For the WAI ARIA should make its December date.
Deliverables continued == In Progress Ideas Doc
Shawn: The new list of deliverables is listed in (rough) priority order. The doucment is a draft of that priority. Lets look section by section.
Helle: Old suites like policy. Do we have a plan for necessary changes for 1.0 to 2.0.
<shawn> BAD being used in online course
Group: Agrees with priority levels.
Shawn: Item transitioning 1.0 to 2.0... What is you feeling about what we need for that. The benefits of 2.0. This document was proposed before the slide show. .. the about WCAG 2.0 presentation. Do we need to add more.
Justin: If the presentation works already we don't need it. [But we need to if the presentation works]
Helle: We maybe need a short
... Pending legislation: Denmark will adopt WCAG level AA on web sites.
Scribes Note: Notice the legislation does not specify WCAG version.
<andrew> ACTION: Helle - draft benefits of WCAG 2.0 and send to EO list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action05]
Shawn: Now turn to the lower priority items: Transitioning 1.0 to 2.0 suite, Evaluation tools,
Helle: Maybe we don't need something so big.
Shawn: 2008 Planned Deliverables
<scribe> ACTION: Shawn check with Shadi and EOWG about announcing the tools database without updatind the "Selecting" document. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action06]
Helle: What is the status of the 1.0 to 2.0 mapping.
Shawn: The rough may be present
... Additinal deliverables
Helle: We could remove the glossary.
Judy: We could remove it translators required list.
Judy: We should be thinking about
it. It may be that it makes more sence to remove it from the
requirements list... but nt abandon it forever.
... Because of the good work it has increased our ability on other definitions.
Andrew: Could we remove the controvercial definitins and leave a basic list.
Helle: That would give a list that was too basic.
<andrew> ACTION: Shawn - look at what we might be able to do to wrap up and release (a form of) the glossary; or remove from deliverables list (and archive?) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/07-eo-minutes.html#action07]
jack: should we have it as a resource, but not a requirement.
Andrew: We might change "Additional Deliverables" to "Wish List".
Shawn: Anything on the archives that should be moved up.
Judy: There may not be a lot of
difference between Aditional Deliverables and Arvhives.
... Move the from ARchive Accessible features of W3C Technologies and Alternative Borusling up.
Helle: What is the difference between WARIA , the techniques, and these documents.
Judy: The W3C accessiblity features are more promotional. The other doucments are mor technical.
Helle: Is this like how to make SVG accessible.
Judy: How SVG helps accessibility.
Group: Accepts Deliverables with stated changes.
See pointer to EO meetings for holidays.
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