SV_MEETING_TITLE -- 5 Dec 2007

<kidehen> kidehen joined call

<leobard> hi

<LeeF> hi Leo

<LeeF> Scribenick: Leo

<leobard> Scribenick: leobard

<Kjetil> hehe

<scribe> scribe: David Provost is not here today.

susie: had the idea to make a webinar
... then next agenda item is "preferred document collection"
... leo about information gathering
... I looked at the website and tried it out
... I had problems with the internet explorer being very slow
... I went to the url:

I couldn't figure out where the data was available to me

and how I could upload data

<Susie>

susie: then i pressed some button on upper left and then ie crashed

why did I needed to upload data when I was lookinf for "the latest book in smenweb"

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/Info/

<kidehen> Susie: you should not be using that URL

<kidehen> Susie: as in <http://demo.openlinksw.com/DAV/JS/rdfbrowser/index.html>

<danja> (sorry, lost track of time - will be in a minute)

scribe: kidehen, susie, leo go through demo ...

http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataSources

<LeeF> the one issue that i've been advocating for for 12 months :-)

<kidehen> Susie: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/Info/summary.vsp

<LeeF> In my opinion, there are no RDF browsers that exist right now that are friendly enough to use for this data display for non-technical people.

<danja> sorry LeeF, issue? (I'm having trouble connecting)

<uldis> hi, i just joined the telco

<LeeF> The same issue we've been discussing for 12 months :(

kingsley: first rdf storage, then others make user interfaces for it

<LeeF> whether sweo should create a friendly portal for the informatio ngathering task

<uldis> sorry for being late, was in a meeting

<LeeF> or focus on data collection and RDF exposing

LeeF: yep

<danja> hmm

<danja> oh well

<uldis> thx, danja

kidehen: based on the URI pointing to the RDF data, different user interfaces can be done

<danja> thank you Zakim

<LeeF> I don't think such a URL exists.

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/Info/

http://sweo.openlinksw.com:8892/dumps/

<LeeF> There is no URL that SWEO is producing that complete novices can reasonably be pointed to.

Leef: yes

<LeeF> (not sure if Susie understands that)

susie: how hard is it to provide an interface for a novice user?

<kidehen> All: We are missing the URI for the entity "sweo" in this Info Gathering repository

LeeF: I advocate a glossy-good looking endpoint for end users, but have not the time to put into.

<kidehen> All: this URI will be dereferencable and will generate a HTML representation for normal browsers (i.e. Doc Web browsers)

<danja> (time permitting :-)

LeeF: at the moment we have a RDF endpoint, but no sweo members commited on time for the gui

<kidehen> leobard: we need to make a movie about using this system

susie: I appreciate the time put into it and we should have the url now where the information is gathered

<kidehen> loebard: i.e. record interaction with the system

susie: once we have the data gathered, in the next sweo we could make the gui
... and other people can do the gui, so we have to publish the URI

<uldis> plenty of work for the next sweo

susie: danny, what about the tutorial rating system?

Danny: ... (hard to hear)....
... ongoing work on the gui.
... we put data into it and
... more work done in next week

<LeeF> I would be glad to.

<LeeF> oo, good thing I'm muted :)

<Susie> ACTION: Danny to review URI document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/05-sweo-minutes.html#action01]

<Susie> ACTION: Susie to check minimal time for posting URI document as a working draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/05-sweo-minutes.html#action02]

Leo mentions facts about the role of author/editor in the document

<Susie> ACTION: URI document to become a working draft by Dec. 12. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/05-sweo-minutes.html#action03]

Danny and Lee wonder who has experience in publishing the note

Ivan is identified as the most experienced

susie: next point on the agenda
... Ivan on updates in use-cases and faw
... Pfizer use case is posted on website now
... Ivan and I have spent time on working on an outline on what we expect people to write when they write a use-case.
... we also setup an e-mail alias for submission of use cases/case studies
... uldis has been talking with BBC about a possible use case

uldis: current status is: they have catalogued their content in RDF.
... but its not clear how this can be showed as case study
... they have also a new project going on, a possible use case

kidehen: Danny, didn't you list "BBC memories" in your weekly rdf?

<uldis> http://www.asemantics.com/bbc-date-aggregator

http://www.bbc.co.uk/memoryshare/

<uldis> that's just short info, it's not public yet. this is the aggregator i mentioned earlier

<uldis> re. BBC program catalogue there's an XTech 2006 paper about this:

<uldis> http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/32

susie: lee, danny, meli, you looked at different facet categories for grouping the use cases
... any news about categories?

<scribe> ACTION: danny, meli, lee: continue on looking at facet categories for grouping use cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/05-sweo-minutes.html#action04]

susie: last agenda point: community projects

Kjetil: trying to recruit students to fulfill part of my work

kingsley reports that parts of BBC data are published as open linked data

kingsley: we will have a new dataset of BBC soon and update the wikipedia data also

kidehen: the conference on linked data will be 17th, 18th June 2008, in New York
... east coast first, then west coast

<LeeF> ack

Kjetilk: What is the status on SWEO continuation?

<uldis> there will also be a SIOC tutorial at WWW'08

Kjetilk: many groups are chartered now (hclsid, ...) and then sweo is discussed

<Kjetil> s/KjetilK/LeeF/

<Kjetil> I think?

<kidehen> LeeF: Dates for event?

Leef: workshop coming up in ~march on that

<danja> ALberto's presentation on BBC data : http://www.asemantics.com/presos/SWIG-UK-Bristol/BBC-content-aggregator.pdf

<danja> from : http://swig.networkedplanet.com/special.html

<kidehen> uldis: Where is your Tutorial re. SIOC?

susie: there is a HCLS workshop in www, where I am organising
... maybe plan the first f2f meeting of sweo in Beijing

Kjetil: congratulations to scientific american article

<kidehen> Kjetil: link please

<LeeF> no link :(

<danja> very nice article in Sci Am

<uldis> paid-article - not good for outreach

<uldis> :/

uldis, I would say scientific american: excellent way for outreach

<danja> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-semantic-web-in-action

question on tim berners lee interview

<uldis> in Rolling Stones magazine

susie: aob?

<uldis> leobard: if people have to pay to read the article in SciAm, that's bad, not good

<danja> I thought I'd seen a Linked Data bit in http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pXflHWOWtQsbcjIFQ0FiAag

<danja> SWAP 2007, semweb .it conf

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