See also: IRC log
next call: 15 november, chari: Tonya, scribe: Eric_Neumann
jar: goal: get HCLS to bless a
URI note
... shoorting for end of Dec when charter expires
... missing probably not a disaster
... need this group to decide to put up a draft
... will continue to work in situ
... needs a week to meet publishing practice
... needs TOC and refs
<alanr> :)
jar: also have list of 50-60
little things to do before pub
... e.g. align with other document terminology
ACTION: jar to announce URI Note to hcls list on Monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
jar: would like folks to look at
the doc before Fri
... will do a presentation at f2f
... would like WG to decide (at f2f) to publish subject to
finite modification list
eneumann: would like folks to think about this being an HCLS document
jar: i would expect 2-3 round of review between 9Nov and 31Dec
eneumann: shall we contact the comm team and do a press release?
Susie: could write a blog on the homepage (picked up by PlanetRDF so it gets some visibility)
eneumann: do you think IUPAC would consider this note for identifiers in the chem domain?
tnbhat: i am working woth Royal
Society of (for?) Chemistry
... [X] seems to like our way of doing this [assigning
identifiers]
... need a rule based approach to be appropriately
scalabale
... in that way, INCHI helps
eneumann: we want to circle back with these orgs at the appropriate time
tnbaht: will contact [Y] when i have more work done on the protien database
jar: the URI note talks about good practice -- very meta
current plan: jar will edit URI Note in situ and we will copy out only when we publish
<jar> doc is highly labile. don't read it this weekend
<jar> read it on monday
eneumann: y'all, please read the note
<jar> yes, do read it, but wait until monday so that everyone's reviewing the same version. i will be pushing out 1-2 new versions daily until monday
<jar> status of TAG scheduling situation: Stuart put a query out on Oct 29 asking generally who could/couldn't make it on Mon or Tue. Answers from Raman and me. No further traffic so far. So not known whether it's to be thursday, mon, or tues.
vipul: moving towards a
motivating proof of concept
... based on reg info, i've characterized the list of
participants
... goal is to get buy-in from them and move on to the next
step
... all participants are equal, but some are more equal than
others
... would saying so violate W3C rules?
ericP: no, but it helps to justify your choices
alanr: moderator can encourage health care providers to give input
vipul: a fellow from seimmans
(SP?)
... energy from Cisco. any contacts at W3C?
ericP: only know of video players at Cisco
[Susie expressed knowledge of Cisco hc activity]
ACTION: eneumann to contact Robert Vanmanen from Face Forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
vipul: also heard from marcus collins
<Susie> It's Robert Van Manen from Phase Forward
vipul: [Z] from CDISK will miss Thu
alanr: Mike Bevil (Merck) may get someone to come
<jar> ericp, fwiw, i think i'm supposed to tell vipul how to recategorize science commons for his coi wiki page - i think this is an action item
vipul: start with introduction
(ericN and Tonya)
... use case (30 mins): where semweb can help with patient
recruitment
... use case will be presented by Rachel
... followed by detailed clinical model
... chimezie will present his semantic @@ system
... @@
... round table brainstorming session
... hit on 3:
... .. resources commitments
... .. getting de-identified patient data
ACTION: Vipul to contact Steven Dobsen of Pfizer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html#action03]
<mscottm> Isn't Pfizer in Boston?
<alanr> some
vipul: .. deveoper resources (like science commons did for the Banff demo)
Susie: agenda looks wonderful. could you link it in?
ACTION: vipul to link main f2f agenda page to COI agenda page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html#action04]
alanr: let's spread out during breaks and collect ideas
ACTION: vipul to send notes and/or phone desired contacts [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html#action05]
vipul: will be putting up slides
on agenda wiki
... please comment as to wether they address benifits to
stakeholders
eneumann: did you consider the JANUS project?
<Susie> Jeff Rideout is the guy I came across at Cisco
ACTION: eneumann to ask Mark Vermette to show up [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html#action06]
alanr: make sure you Cc: amy@w3.org so she can register anyone you invite
vipul: need a local for brainstorming session
ericP: bar, resto, Stata Center (1.1 miles)
we may be meeting the TAG at this time
vipul: feel free to change the wiki. (try not to delete stuff)
<alanr> Do we want to ask John Barkley?
<alanr> Wasn't he at NIST?
ACITON: ericP to check with Amy to see if it's useful for W3C to request a restaurant res for 10 people
<alanr> I worry 10 will be too few unless invitations are managed
Susie: Jeff Rideout manages internet solution business groups
<alanr> 7 people are on vipul's list already, and that only includes a couple of invitees
Susie: Kevin Dean is the interim health care guy
alanr: weekend project is to prepare that presentation
vipul: i want to buy in and push the use case all the way to PoC
alanr: might be difficult in a
half day
... getting folks interested in talking next week might be good
enough
... pushing may result in nodding agreement
eneumann: anyone want to get together early on thu? or shall we wait 'till after lunch...
alanr: AC meeting is that AM. eneumann, alanr, ericP, Susie, Vipul likely to be at AC
<jar> busy until noon, available for lunch
alanr: could meet for b'fast
<alanr> jar @ AC too, for SC
ADJOURNED