IRC log of rdfa on 2007-10-18
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- 14:51:08 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)
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- ok, mhausenblas; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
- 14:51:17 [mhausenblas]
- Meeting: W3C RDF-in-XHTML TF - Telecon 2007-10-18, 15:00 UTC
- 14:51:24 [mhausenblas]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0180.html
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2007-10-11
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- Chair: Ben
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 14:57:18 [msporny]
- or a list of Zakim commands?
- 14:57:51 [Ralph]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim irc bot instructions
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- SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
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- +Michael_Hausenblas
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- +Ralph
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- -Ralph
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- +Ralph
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- zakim, gimme the codes please.
- 15:02:51 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'gimme the codes please', markbirbeck
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- +??P11
- 15:02:57 [markbirbeck]
- zakim, codes?
- 15:02:57 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, markbirbeck.
- 15:03:02 [markbirbeck]
- zakim, code?
- 15:03:02 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
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- zakim, ??p11 is Manu
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- +Manu; got it
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- +??P13
- 15:03:47 [markbirbeck]
- zakim, i am ?
- 15:03:47 [Zakim]
- +markbirbeck; got it
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- +ShaneM
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- + +1.617.395.aaaa
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- Zakim, who i speaking?
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- I don't understand your question, Simone.
- 15:06:36 [Ralph]
- zakim, aaaa is Ben
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- +Ben; got it
- 15:06:39 [Simone]
- Zakim, who is speaking?
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- Simone, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben (85%), Michael_Hausenblas (20%)
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- +[IPcaller]
- 15:06:54 [msporny]
- I can re-connect if needed, Ralph?
- 15:07:01 [Simone]
- Zakim, IPcaller is me
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- +Simone; got it
- 15:08:10 [Simone]
- Zakim, who is speaking?
- 15:08:20 [Zakim]
- Simone, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Hausenblas (68%), Simone (16%)
- 15:10:19 [benadida]
- next telecon is Friday 26 october, 1400 UTC
- 15:10:29 [benadida]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 15:10:29 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Simone
- 15:10:36 [mhausenblas]
- ScribeNick: mhausenblas
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 15:12:21 [mhausenblas]
- Ben: There are certain edge cases we need to iron out, but we are on a good way
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- Topic: Action Items
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
- 15:14:19 [mhausenblas]
- Ralph: Syntax Document - process issues are clear for Shane/Steven?
- 15:14:41 [mhausenblas]
- Shane: Steven is currently on holiday - rest offline
- 15:15:32 [mhausenblas]
- Ben: So this will be the draft we propose for publication
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- [NEW] ACTION: All look at tests 46 - 53 and write what you believe the correct triples are [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
- 15:15:51 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0175.html Ben's init the thread
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- -- done
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- -- done
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- [NEW] ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
- 15:17:27 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
- 15:17:32 [mhausenblas]
- [NEW] ACTION: Michael to find a more appropriate predicate than foaf:knows for TC46-53 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
- 15:17:38 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0181.html Manu implicitly resovled it
- 15:17:51 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0181.html Manu implicitly resovled it
- 15:17:59 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/#term_maker foaf:maker
- 15:18:09 [mhausenblas]
- -- done
- 15:18:19 [mhausenblas]
- [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
- 15:18:24 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- [PENDING] ACTION: Michael make sure to confirm a design for checking that the ASK SPARQL queries evaluate (yes/no) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
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- -- done
- 15:18:42 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0171.html Michael's proposal
- 15:19:32 [mhausenblas]
- [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
- 15:20:02 [mhausenblas]
- -- continues
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- Topic: Test Cases Review and Approval (46-53, 54-56)
- 15:20:35 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0170.html Manu's proposed TC validator
- 15:20:42 [Ralph]
- scribenick: ralph
- 15:20:54 [Ralph]
- Michael: Manu proposed a wonderful implementation of a test case validator
- 15:21:06 [Ralph]
- ... I'd accept a formal action shared with Manu to implement this
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- ... both as an on-line service and as a downloadable tool
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- ... downloadable version would run locally but still fetch test resources from w3.org
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- Manu: Ivan's help is necessary for pyrdfa bits
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- ACTION: Michael and Manu investigate with Ivan the implementation of the test case validator proposal on w3.org
- 15:23:49 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/ TC
- 15:24:17 [Ralph]
- -- test 46
- 15:24:35 [Ralph]
- Michael: I've not yet made the foaf:knows -> foaf:maker change; please assume that correction has been made
- 15:24:47 [Ralph]
- Manu, Ben: 46 ok
- 15:25:27 [Ralph]
- Mark: we're still going to have the @instanceof discussion, right?
- 15:26:14 [Ralph]
- Ben: I'm pretty sure Mark and I agree in the case of test 46
- 15:26:33 [Ralph]
- Mark: the @instanceof discussion that Ben and I are having does apply to test 46 as well
- 15:26:47 [Ralph]
- ... I've sent Ben a long email
- 15:26:57 [Ralph]
- ... I would apply @instanceof to a subject that sits before the @rel
- 15:27:18 [Ralph]
- Ben: so you'd have @instanceof inheriting something?
- 15:27:34 [Ralph]
- Mark: no, @instance of would create a bnode on the div and @rel and @instanceof both apply to this bnode
- 15:27:52 [Ralph]
- Ben: so there would be 2 bnodes?
- 15:27:53 [Ralph]
- Mark: yes
- 15:28:29 [Ralph]
- ... I'm not opposed to changing if there are use cases that require Ben's interpretation
- 15:28:43 [Ralph]
- Manu: this will affect all the test cases
- 15:30:21 [Ralph]
- Michael: shall we put test 46 on hold pending decision on how @instanceof works?
- 15:30:24 [Ralph]
- Ben: yes
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- -- test 47
- 15:31:17 [Ralph]
- Mark: if the question is whether these test are consistent, then, yes; but if the question is whether we agree on the triples, then no
- 15:31:26 [Ralph]
- ... I think @instanceof should apply to the subject
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- Ben: I'm confused because I thought these were the ones we agreed on
- 15:32:12 [Ralph]
- Mark: if @resource was on its own, then I'd agree that @instanceof applies to it
- 15:33:02 [Ralph]
- ... e.g. if @rel were omitted from test 47, then we might have the same interpretation
- 15:34:25 [mhausenblas]
- q+
- 15:35:16 [Ralph]
- Ralph: are these differences in interpretation of the language in the document or differences revealed by having some actual triples to look at?
- 15:35:46 [Ralph]
- Mark: to be fair, I've agreed to let the document proceed even though I disagree with some of it
- 15:36:05 [Ralph]
- ... looks to me like test 48 works the way I expect
- 15:36:26 [Ralph]
- Ben: and in my evaluation I'd said that test 48 did not match my interpretation
- 15:37:20 [Ralph]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0175.html "Evaluation of Test Cases 46-53" [Ben 2007-10-17]
- 15:37:30 [Ralph]
- Manu: perhaps there is agreement on test 49?
- 15:37:47 [Ralph]
- Mark, Ben: test 49 is OK
- 15:37:57 [Ralph]
- Mark: I say @about always applies
- 15:38:12 [Ralph]
- Ben: this is the one wierd case where I could be convinced to create a bnode
- 15:38:56 [Ralph]
- ... I agree this test gives the right triples
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- RESOLVED: test 49 approved
- 15:39:54 [Ralph]
- q+ to ask about semantics in 49
- 15:40:03 [Ralph]
- Manu: perhaps we agree on 50 also?
- 15:40:23 [mhausenblas]
- +1
- 15:40:23 [msporny]
- ASK WHERE {
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- _:a <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "John Doe" .
- 15:40:23 [msporny]
- _:a <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
- 15:40:23 [msporny]
- <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
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- }
- 15:40:41 [Ralph]
- Manu: the sparql is wrong; should be as posted above
- 15:41:22 [Ralph]
- Mark: test 50 is fine with me
- 15:41:32 [Ralph]
- ... bnode created on the DIV and the property applies to that bnode
- 15:41:41 [Ralph]
- RESOLVED: test 50 approved
- 15:42:01 [Zakim]
- Ralph, you wanted to ask about semantics in 49
- 15:42:24 [Ralph]
- Ralph: TAG would object to us suggesting that example.org's home page has rdf:type foaf:Person
- 15:42:30 [Ralph]
- Michael: add #me then
- 15:42:34 [Ralph]
- Ralph: OK
- 15:43:13 [Ralph]
- -- test 51
- 15:43:46 [Ralph]
- Mark: on test 51 I'd still create the bnode first and attach the property to it
- 15:44:02 [Ralph]
- Ben: we've said for a long time that @instanceof is syntactic sugar for a child element
- 15:44:11 [Ralph]
- Mark: yes, but not any element
- 15:44:21 [Ralph]
- ... we'd said that LINK and META apply to the parent
- 15:44:29 [mhausenblas]
- we could at least resolve the semantic issue in TC51
- 15:44:36 [mhausenblas]
- as Manu put outin his review
- 15:44:37 [Ralph]
- Shane: child of LINK or when LINK is a child? LINK's content model is empty
- 15:44:38 [mhausenblas]
- <h1 instanceof="foaf:Document" property="foaf:topic">
- 15:44:55 [mhausenblas]
- s/outin/out in
- 15:45:49 [Ralph]
- Mark: we used to have @role be a long-handed way of adding predicates to a parent element
- 15:46:06 [Ralph]
- Manu: the question is about precedence
- 15:46:23 [Ralph]
- ... it seems consistent that @instanceof without @about always creates a bnode
- 15:46:36 [Ralph]
- Ben: the question is "on what element"?
- 15:46:50 [Ralph]
- ... I think the property picks up a subject before the bnode is identified
- 15:47:18 [markbirbeck]
- s/we used to have @role/we used to have <link rel="xh:role" href="..." \/>/
- 15:48:02 [Ralph]
- Ralph: if you need to make assumptions about the order of processing of attributes, does that affect either of these interpretations?
- 15:48:17 [Ralph]
- Ben, Mark: we think order of processing does affect both interpretations
- 15:48:28 [Ralph]
- Manu: @@scribe didn't capture
- 15:48:46 [Ralph]
- Ben: one interpretation makes certain use cases very difficult to write
- 15:48:51 [Ralph]
- Manu: but not impossible
- 15:49:08 [Ralph]
- ... the goal is to make something that is consistent
- 15:49:15 [Ralph]
- Ben: no, the goal is to meet our use cases
- 15:49:31 [Ralph]
- ... how do you write "I know another person"?
- 15:49:41 [Ralph]
- ... without chaining, this becomes very difficult
- 15:49:50 [Ralph]
- ... came up first when we considered bibtex
- 15:50:11 [Ralph]
- ... wanting to give an rdf:type to the author of a paper
- 15:50:32 [Ralph]
- Manu: we may have conflicting goals; consistency vs. use cases
- 15:50:38 [Ralph]
- Ben: I think we've always had those conflicts
- 15:50:55 [msporny]
- <div about="#me" rel="foaf:knows" resource="#ben">
- 15:51:02 [Ralph]
- ... I agree that Mark's interpretation is definitely consistent
- 15:51:49 [Ralph]
- -- test 52
- 15:51:56 [markbirbeck]
- I see Ben's issue. I've realised that we are missing one element of the 'old' chaining that we don't have now.
- 15:52:01 [markbirbeck]
- In this:
- 15:52:03 [Ralph]
- Ben: if I heard Mark correctly, we might agree on 52
- 15:52:04 [markbirbeck]
- <div about="#me" rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person">
- 15:52:04 [markbirbeck]
- <div rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person">
- 15:52:04 [markbirbeck]
- <div rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person">
- 15:52:04 [markbirbeck]
- ...for ever...
- 15:52:04 [markbirbeck]
- </div>
- 15:52:05 [markbirbeck]
- </div>
- 15:52:07 [markbirbeck]
- </div>
- 15:52:15 [markbirbeck]
- We used to make the object/subject line up.
- 15:52:25 [Ralph]
- Ben: Mark's example in irc is a good example
- 15:52:36 [markbirbeck]
- If we were to explicitly 'align' them, would that resolve it for you, Ben?
- 15:53:13 [Ralph]
- Mark: in the case of 52, I see @resource working just like @about
- 15:53:21 [Ralph]
- Michael: needs #me again
- 15:53:45 [Ralph]
- Mark, Ben: agree on 52
- 15:53:58 [Ralph]
- Mark: the example I just posted in irc ...
- 15:54:21 [Ralph]
- ... when we first had chaining (before we'd removed and readded it), it was more explicit that the object of one became the subject of the other
- 15:54:36 [Ralph]
- ... with one more rule, I think this addresses Ben's use case
- 15:55:01 [Ralph]
- RESOLVED: test 52 approved, pending addition of #me
- 15:55:05 [Ralph]
- -- test 53
- 15:55:32 [Ralph]
- Ben: one triple is missing from the SPARQL
- 15:55:37 [Ralph]
- ... add #me again
- 15:56:27 [Ralph]
- Michael: in the future, I will clean proposed test cases for semantic bugs first before adding them to the test suite
- 15:56:35 [Ralph]
- ... for discussion
- 15:57:07 [Ralph]
- Manu: consider completely different properties; e.g. type foaf:Document
- 15:57:47 [msporny]
- ASK WHERE {
- 15:57:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.example.org>
- 15:57:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
- 15:57:47 [msporny]
- <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
- 15:57:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.example.org>
- 15:57:48 [msporny]
- <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name>
- 15:57:50 [msporny]
- "John Doe".
- 15:57:52 [msporny]
- }
- 15:58:42 [Ralph]
- Ben, Mark: agree with Manu's triples in irc
- 15:58:51 [Ralph]
- RESOLVED, test 53 accepted pending addition of #me
- 15:59:11 [Ralph]
- -- test 54
- 15:59:35 [Ralph]
- (multiple properites)
- 15:59:44 [Ralph]
- Ben, Mark: look good to us
- 15:59:51 [Ralph]
- RESOLVED, test 54 accepted
- 15:59:55 [Ralph]
- -- test 55
- 16:00:03 [Ralph]
- Ben: 55 uses @rel instead of @property
- 16:00:31 [Ralph]
- Ben, Mark: 55 looks good to us
- 16:00:35 [Ralph]
- RESOLVED, test 55 accepted
- 16:00:47 [Ralph]
- -- test 56
- 16:00:52 [Ralph]
- Michael: 56 is a smorgasbord
- 16:01:27 [Ralph]
- Ben: if it's a reasonable and correct example, I see no reason to refuse it as a test
- 16:01:40 [Ralph]
- Michael: I want to understand if it introduces anything new
- 16:01:45 [Ralph]
- ... it's a matter of time
- 16:01:52 [Ralph]
- ... I don't see anything new in test 56
- 16:02:11 [Ralph]
- Manu: might catch if a developer has inserted a whole bunch of hacks
- 16:02:44 [Ralph]
- Mark: consider numbering such tests starting with a higher number
- 16:02:49 [Ralph]
- Ralph: how about 200 ? :)
- 16:02:53 [Ralph]
- Manu: like torture tests?
- 16:03:15 [Ralph]
- Michael: I'll pick 1000
- 16:03:47 [msporny]
- ASK WHERE {
- 16:03:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
- 16:03:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
- 16:03:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#Vevent> .
- 16:03:47 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
- 16:03:48 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#summary> "Weekend off in Iona" .
- 16:03:50 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
- 16:03:52 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#dtstart>
- 16:03:55 [msporny]
- "2006-10-21"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> .
- 16:03:56 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
- 16:03:58 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#dtend>
- 16:04:00 [msporny]
- "2006-10-23"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> .
- 16:04:02 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
- 16:04:04 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#url> <http://freetime.example.org/> .
- 16:04:06 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
- 16:04:08 [msporny]
- <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#location> "Iona, UK" .
- 16:04:10 [msporny]
- }
- 16:04:12 [msporny]
- "rdf:type" needed to be expanded, also missing a "." at the end of
- 16:04:14 [msporny]
- the next-to-last statement.
- 16:04:17 [Ralph]
- Manu: there are two errors in the SPARQL; missing rdf:type
- 16:04:42 [Ralph]
- Mark, Ben: 56 looks good to us
- 16:04:52 [Ralph]
- RESOLVED: test 56 accepted, renamed to 1001
- 16:05:02 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html Ivan's concerns on approved TC
- 16:05:33 [Ralph]
- Michael: Ivan asked us to reconsider tests 11 and 29
- 16:05:49 [Ralph]
- ... both concern the handling of whitespace
- 16:06:02 [Ralph]
- Ben: Ivan has a good point particularly w.r.t. handling of PRE
- 16:06:21 [Ralph]
- ACTION: Ben enter Ivan's concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html as issues in tracker
- 16:06:59 [Ralph]
- Shane: the syntax draft asks "what is the default value for @instanceof"
- 16:07:04 [Ralph]
- ... this is a schema implementation issue
- 16:07:09 [Ralph]
- ... do we know an answer?
- 16:07:14 [Ralph]
- Ben: can the default be null?
- 16:07:24 [Ralph]
- Mark: but that would make every DIV be a bnode
- 16:07:33 [Ralph]
- Ben: that's why I proposed null
- 16:08:05 [Ralph]
- ... since @instanceof changes the way subject interpretation occurs, it should not have a default value
- 16:08:15 [Ralph]
- ... @instanceof="" should not be the same as omitting @instanceof
- 16:08:48 [Ralph]
- Shane: so the answer is there is no default value from a DTD implementation perspective, but there is a default interpretation from an RDFa implementation perspective
- 16:09:17 [Ralph]
- scribenick: mhausenblas
- 16:09:19 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 16:09:19 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 16:09:25 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: State of Documents
- 16:09:45 [mhausenblas]
- Shane: Work on Syntax and will forward it to Ralph
- 16:10:13 [mhausenblas]
- Ben: Regarding Primer I worked in a lot of comments, incl. BobDC
- 16:10:31 [mhausenblas]
- ... won't be around on upcoming SWD telecon
- 16:11:44 [mhausenblas]
- Ben: Need to request it via mail
- 16:12:13 [mhausenblas]
- Ralph: Also remind the chairs for critical issues
- 16:12:15 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: Schedule for next Telecons
- 16:12:26 [mhausenblas]
- Next Friday, 26 Oct 14:00UTC
- 16:12:36 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 16:12:36 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 16:12:43 [Zakim]
- -Manu
- 16:12:45 [Zakim]
- -ShaneM
- 16:12:45 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Hausenblas
- 16:12:49 [Zakim]
- -Ralph
- 16:12:54 [Ralph]
- zakim, list participants
- 16:12:54 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Manu, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +1.617.395.aaaa, Ben, Simone
- 16:13:08 [Zakim]
- -Simone
- 16:14:18 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 16:14:18 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 16:17:42 [Ralph]
- [I have just changed next week's telecon reservation to Friday, 1 hour earlier -- http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20071026 ]
- 16:17:51 [Ralph]
- zakim, bye
- 16:17:51 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Manu, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +1.617.395.aaaa, Ben, Simone
- 16:17:51 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #rdfa
- 16:18:04 [Ralph]
- rrsagent, bye
- 16:18:04 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-actions.rdf :
- 16:18:04 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Michael and Manu investigate with Ivan the implementation of the test case validator proposal on w3.org [1]
- 16:18:04 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc#T15-23-35
- 16:18:04 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ben enter Ivan's concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html as issues in tracker [2]
- 16:18:04 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc#T16-06-21