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Susie: today: flyer, use cases,
info gathering, URI document
... document collection, enterprise survey
... F2F next week
<scribe> Scribe: LeeF
Susie: Ivan and I had call with
Ian Jacobs regarding flyer text
... I sent revised version to Dunja
Dunja: Discussed flyer with a
colleague; the flyer might promise things that the SemWeb
cannot provide yet
... also existing software can solve some described
scenarios
... e.g. decision support
... scenario on last page should involve searching the Web,
rather than searching a firm's databases
... job seekers can publish resumes on their own Web sites and
can be found automatically
... misses layer cake :-)
Susie: Seems to warrant offline discussion
<PaulaP> -1 for last page of the SW flyer
Susie: back page has scenario
comparing traditional and SemWeb approches for identifying
candidates for a widget role
... (Susie reads scenario)
<PaulaP> I still think that we should have the SW layer cake on the last page
Karen: Maybe the brochure can go
on the SWEO F2F agenda?
... when talking to enterprises, I see a need to be specific
vis a vis complex queries
... that you can't do with traditional technologies
... Recently several financial services organizations have
shown interest in Sem Web - perhaps a good area for an
example
Susie: older version of scenario
text had more detail
... (reads older scenario)
kidehen: who's driving this use
case scenario? there's a fundamental aspect that we're not
mentioning
... the fact that you can canonicalize these queries through a
pointer called a URI
<Karen> +1 complex queries through URIs
kidehen: we need to show how a
single URI can be used as a vehicle to expose data from queries
over disparate databases
... that's the real difference
Susie: the 2nd page of the brochure talks about the Web of Data
<danja> re. grddl, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2007Oct/0065.html
Susie: doesn't mention URIs specifically due to intended audience
<PaulaP> +1 to high-level, -1 to detailed use cases
kidehen: if we start with a
pyramid, start with data sources, then SPARQL... apex is
URI
... executives are able to deal with a URI
... otherwise people will say they already say they have a
dashboard that gives them this info in a dashboard
LeeF: Don't think that URIs are a selling point to non-technical people
kidehen: information at your fingertips, not URIs per se
Susie: Dunja, PaulaP, Ivan and I will have a meeting on enhancing brochure, then we can discuss based on the full contents of the brochure
<Dunja> +1
Susie: some confusion between previously existing RDF triple logo and new Semantic Web logo
bengee: people seem to generally
like the logo
... bit of unhappiness on the feeling that the process was not
open
... also unhappiness surrounding the usage policy of the
logo
... if we continue, maybe the process should be more open
Susie: When we do the work on the pictogram, we should involve other people in the process
<kidehen> LeeF: URI aided faceted navigation of Information at your fingertips is my point
LeeF: asks about usage policy
Susie: Ian Jacobs is reviewing
and will mail semantic-web@w3.org
... Ian feels strongly about using cube together with W3C
text
... policy on linking to W3c SemWeb activity may be loosened
for presentations, brochures, etc
<Karen> +1 Susie on Lilly use case!
Susie: I wrote up a use case for
Lilly and published it
... also one published from Cleveland Clinic
... feedback from Bijan on mailing list asking for
technology-specific search facets
... feedback at Cambridge SW Gathering that it would be good to
personalize use cases and case studies
... pictures, quotations, contact information
<danja> (personalizing sounds a very good idea)
Susie: at the F2F we'll discuss what information we want so that we can reach out to people for additional information
leobard: there are bugs to fix to improve the service
(discusison of Internet Explorer interactions with info gathering service)
leobard: no other feedback
Susie: TAG is still discussing URIs
leobard: been in communication
with TAG, looked into SWD
... hoping for specific feedback
... the process might be sped up if we find another editor
(Richard C is at DERI for a while)
MartinD: I can help, but not before November
kidehen: opencyc is latest addition
bengee: coming along, prototype
is up but not announced
... determined to make announcement today
... will post announcement and put in a blog at
knowee.org
... also knowee.net where a reference implementation will be
available with some testing accounts
danja: I've put together scripts
to grab things from del.icio.us et al
... easy to grab resources
... not as easy to figure out what should be included and what
shouldn't
... grab resources, put into revyu.com to be rated
Susie: would like to discuss at F2F
danja: will try to gather more to be ready for F2F, though I won't be at F2F myself
Karen: some more progress to get
it ready for Sept Semantic Technologies thing which was
canceled
... will try to finish it off to be shown next week
Susie: we have a video conference room at MIT
<leobard> we start at 08:30
<Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Meetings/2007-10-24_Conference_Call
(discussion of meeting bfeore meeting to setup video call)
<bengee> leobard, I'll arrive at about 3pm (local time)
<LeeF_> (Susie discusses agenda)
<LeeF_> ... will be dinner at Cambridge Brewing Company overlapping with monthly Cambridge SW Gathering and with RDF/RDB workshop attendee
<LeeF_> s
<Dunja> Dunja will dial in as well
<Dunja> too far :(
Susie: AOB?
adjourned