starting with emr data

criteria given

output is list of patients with some/all criteria

ksrinivs@us.ibm.com

Trigger = start a full comparison of the criteria for all the protocols

Question: When are the criteria evaluated?

Possibilities: As patient is diagnosed, trial pops up as a possible one

or: A company comes asking for who are potential candidates

kavintha: button on physician's console showing patient info asking if they want to see what trials are available

Rachel: Who do we want the user to be

The patient's doctor? or the Study Recruiters? Rachel thinks we were leaning to the latter

We find pool of candidate

Susie: Protocol driven side is more compelling.

In the picture: Once the potential patients are identified, how are does the investigator make the final decision

<Helen> +q

Helen's point: Some of the less easy to evaluate criteria can be evaluated by the physician at the site.

Helen: From the point of view of physician, this is considered value added. Physician and hospital gets money for identifying potential patients.

<scribe> ACTION: Helen to send link to paper describing point system for evaluating patients [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: Helen to send example of proof to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action02]

Vipul - issue with terminology. Differing definitions of diabetes according to MESH, SNOMED

helen - patient record says diabetes according to snomed

Issue for requirements. If criterion is in terms of SNOMED and record is in terms of MESH, then how is the criterion evaluated.

<scribe> ACTION: Helen, Rachel to work on capturing Helen's "variation" of the use case. Combined evaluation/enrollment by doctor at site. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: Susie to ping people at Lilly to evaluate use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Bo and Kersten to ping people at Astra Zeneca to evaluate use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: Vipul to contact people at Partners to evaluate. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action06]

discussion of tech plenary f2f meeting

what's on the agenda?

I wasn't asking you, Zakim, just noting what was being talked about

5th and 6th of november or the 8th or 9th of november

<scribe> ACTION: Vipul to put up straw men agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html#action07]

<Susie> Registration for the F2F - http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2007/

<ericP> this is a complex feedback cycle

<ericP> should converse within the next 6 months (given sufficient attention)

Goal of f2f - get more participation from relevant parties in pharma/ health care.

Discussion of who at Columbia can come to f2f, issue of whether they are willing to share (unlikely?)

IBM can use the patient data and share summary data, like counts, but not release of patient data without further permission

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