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<scribe> Scribe: JR
JA: Tooltips are system
... In Windows and Mac...
... Could they do something on their own?
JR: How on Linux (Gnome, etc.)
PP: Prob system calls
<AllanJ> JR: some applications use system calls, easy and standard.
<AllanJ> ...odd that we are asking UA to not use system calls
JA: Problem is that if browser changes system settings they will be changed for all system.
<AllanJ> JR: UA could provide interface to OS tooltips, user would have to understand that it would change for the OS
JR: Maybe it's ok to change global settings as long as user is warned
PP: Can see the mindset for a global setting
JR: Prob seems to be that it's
hidden at least in WinXP
... And maybe UAAG just needs to make it easier
... Maybe there are some other system things
JA: Like font size in chrome of
... But again impacts every application
... Tooltips maybe more important because displays authored content
<AllanJ> JR: other chrome display meta info <title> is controlled by the OS
JR: Thinks chrome should be system controlled
<scribe> ACTION: JA to Will write a formal checkpoint proposal around tooltips. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-ua-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: JR to Write something up regarding other potential system services impacting display/control [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-ua-minutes.html#action02]
JA: Last week Cathy was talking about richer tooltips
PP: Thankfully not whole forms in many of the tooltips yet
JA: Concerned about time limits etc to interact.
PP: Behaviours often diff from regular tooltips - e.g. stay popped up, require click
JA: Which brings up another
system call thing...
... Warning boxes
PP: Which is why people are
building their own custom controls
... What's interesting is that only some portion of page updates
JA: XForms should solve some of that?
PP: Not sure
JA: Next meeting Sept. 6
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