W3C

Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

28 Aug 2007

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Attendees

Present
Rhys, Magnus_Lonnroth, kemp, Andrew, Jo, sean_patterson, Rob
Regrets
Chair
Rhys
Scribe
Rob

Contents


<trackbot-ng> Date: 28 August 2007

<Andrew> Zarkim, who is on the call?

i can scribe if u like

<jo> scribenick: rob

<jo> Scribe: Rob

<Rhys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/0007.html

rhys: additions to agenda?

<jo> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Pro-1.0-Tests/20070716

<jo> oops

rhys: more from Magnus at the appropriate time

<jo> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/ProblemStatement/070823

<jo> (latest draft of Problem statement posted after the agenda was sent out)

<jo> worked up from andrew's draft plus actions from last telecon to update with additional items from the F2F

Review Problem Statement

<jo> thinks that jo speaking is a waste of time -

<jo> on wlan and skype a bad combo

<jo> will see if there is a fixed phone somewhere

andrew: suggests discuss not mobile-specific but generic delivery-context

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Documents to refer to delivery context in general rather than mobile specifically

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: [CTF] Documents to refer to delivery context in general rather than mobile specifically

Rhys: isn't a problem that we are a mobile group

+1

<kemp> +1

<jo> RESOLUTION: [CTF] Documents to refer to delivery context in general rather than mobile specifically

Rhys: Q about sec 2, 1st bullet: Identify what representations are available for a resource.

jo: summarises next 4 sub-bullets
... eg HTTP 305 return code

Rhys: understood

<jo> np!

Andrew: thanks Jo for completing the action!

Magnus: the following comments are based on Andrews email, not Jo's write-up...
... would be unfortunate if intermediate proxy messed with some MIME-types for certain apps
... reducing size of ad-banners often makes them ineffective or unreadable... does this make replacing them or removing them acceptable?

<Rhys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/0012.html

jo: these are good additions
... advertising point might be kicked to "Society" domain
... would rather we note the point, don't try to answer it

Rhys: this is a guidelines doc, so may be worth guiding the authors that there may be unexpected outcomes with adverts

Sean: any examples on type of app for point 1?

Magnus: J2ME app requesting an image - don't want size/colour depth altering for the phone's browser

Rhys: also AJAX apps - this would even come from the browser's User-Agent

Magnus: indeed. AJAX can request anything
... Will this doc lead to statements of what to do for each actor in the chain?

Rhys: Yes, eg what the origin-server should do, what the adaptation proxies should do all along the chain

<jo> ACTION: [ctf] Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - [ctf]

<jo> ACTION: Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten Transformation] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-539 - Weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten Transformation] [on Jo Rabin - due 2007-09-04].

<Rhys> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/2007-08/CTGuidelines.html

Topic 2. Review Guidelines W3C Working Draft

<jo> is happy with structure of doc as stands

Rhys: who'd like to voulenteer info for sections?

Sean: sec 2.3 to start with

<rhys> ACTION: SeanP to write initial material for section 2.3 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]

Aaron: want to contribute to 2.3, maybe 2.2 maybe others

<rhys> ACTION: Aaron to write initial material for section 2.2/2.3 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]

Andrew: 2.3 and 2.4 please

<rhys> ACTION: Andrew to write initial material for section 2.1/2.3/3.1/3.2 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]

Magnus: 2.1 please

<rhys> ACTION: Magnus to write initial material for section 2.1 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action06]

Andrew: is 2.1 a general intro?

Magnus: it's about HTTP protocol

Sean: and 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 are more detail

Jo: contributors could start with this ToC and we can adjust the structure later

Rhys: OK, start with this structure then

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-540 - Make contribution nominally against 2.1 [on Magnus Lönnroth - due 2007-09-04].

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Patterson

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - SeanP

Magnus: prefer due-date of draft for 10 Sept

Sean: same here, just a draft

<Andrew> I will contribute to 2.1, 2.3, 3.1 & 3.2 by 10 September

Jo: will assign actions later, trackbot's not co-operating at moment.

AOB

Rhys: will be on vacation on a bike next call
... so Jo will chair next

<jo> request that each person taking action is noted as having done so

Rhys: thanks everyone

<jo> othewise we will have no record

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: [ctf] Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Aaron to write initial material for section 2.2/2.3 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Andrew to write initial material for section 2.1/2.3/3.1/3.2 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten Transformation] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Magnus to write initial material for section 2.1 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: SeanP to write initial material for section 2.3 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]
 
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