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SML Teleconference

23 Aug 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Zulah, Kirk, Jordan, John, Valentina, Sandy, James, Pratul, +1.732.658.aaaa, Paul, Marv, kumar, Ginny, Plh
Regrets
Michael
Chair
John Arwe and Pratul
Scribe
Zulah, zulah2

Contents

 

 

<johnarwe> marv, you calling in soon?

<johnarwe> kumar, calling in?

<Sandy> scribe: Zulah

Approval of Minutes

Minutes 8/16 approved

Review of action items

<scribe> scribeNick: zulah

Triage bugs for milestone/keyword fields

Bug 4884 needs agreement

Bug 4628-30 will be discussed at F2F and then milstones will be chosen

<scribe> ACTION: John to put together the list of bugs with no target milestone that are still open (in order to provide a spreadsheet from which to start triage) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-115 - Put together the list of bugs with no target milestone that are still open (in order to provide a spreadsheet from which to start triage) [on John Arwe - due 2007-08-30].

<johnarwe> rfc3987 - which parts rqd

<scribe> ACTION: plh to look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - plh

<johnarwe> Philippe

<scribe> ACTION: philippe to look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-116 - Look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2007-08-30].

Asigning needs agreement bugs to owners

<johnarwe> 4632

Change 4632 owner to philippe

change 4663 owner to John

Change 4635 owner to philippe

Change 4636 to ginny

<johnarwe> 4657

Change 4657 to Kumar

Change 4665 to Pratul

Change 4665 from Pratul to Kumar

Change 4676 owner to John

No change to 4679

Change 4686 owner to ginny

Change 4743 owner to John

Change 4774 owner to Sandy

Change 4801 owner to MSM

Change 4819 owner to John

Change 4872 to needsAgreement

7. Schema Binding requirements from Sandy discussion

<Sandy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Aug/0053.html

8. Null references

<Sandy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Aug/0055.html

Discussion: you could use optional elements in the example in the above email

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true">

<johnarwe> <altprop1> foo </..>

<johnarwe> </alternate>

<pratul> Why does the producer say sml:ref="true" here?

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true"/>

<zulah2> Scribe: zulah2

John: Do we think that there is enough value in having the concept of a null reference

general agreement

John: second question is whether sml: target Required=true should allow null references

Kirk: would like to see proposal in writing before agreeing to this

Discussion: we have a general discussion about what it means to have tergetRequired=true and then have a null ref. But this depends on how we define targetRequired=true.

John: If we use the following definition, if targetRequired=true then null refs are not allowed. And null refs are only valid when when targetRequired is false or not specified. Do we need some other semantic representation for Sandy's case.
... are there any objections to saying targetRequired=true prohibits null references

we have concensus

John: third case for discussion then is empty references
... is everyone commfortable with saying that we don't have empty references

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true"/>

the scribe has a hard stop at 1

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true" sml:null="true"/>

<johnarwe> will continue this via emali

<johnarwe> 06 rrsagent, generate minutes01

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: John to put together the list of bugs with no target milestone that are still open (in order to provide a spreadsheet from which to start triage) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: philippe to look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: plh to look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action02]
 
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