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17 Jul 2007

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Regrets
chimezie
Chair
LeeF
Scribe
??, ericP

Contents


 

seems to complement nicely the coverage stuff i'm (working on|banging my head against)

<LeeF> SteveH - thanks for the info re: type promotion - I don't think we approved those yet

<SteveH> ok, great

<LeeF> Scribe: ??

<SteveH> LeeF, is this likely to be a long one?

<LeeF> ...esp. distinct + type promotion

<LeeF> I don't see a lot of working group (as opposed to individual) work on the agenda

<LeeF> Scribe: ericP

<scribe> Scribenick: ericP

Convene

next meeting: 24 July, scribe: AndyS

<LeeF> minutes from last week

<LeeF> approved

action items

<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to run the construct tests by 17 Ju [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action01]

<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark approved sorting tests (1..10) as such [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action02]

action -1

action -2

<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to generate overview page of data-r2 tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action03]

<LeeF> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [PENDING] but progress [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action04]

<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations (object of earl:subject)? [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action05]

<LeeF> ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action06]

<LeeF> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action07]

<LeeF> ACTION: Eric+Andy: Collect all the testing feature URIs and put in the documentation [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action08]

<LeeF> ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action09]

<LeeF> action -8

<LeeF> ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action10]

<LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action11]

<AndyS> DE-*

de-de

<LeeF> AndyS, ericP: discussion of what goes into the non-extended-langmatches testing

<LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action12]

<LeeF> ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action13]

test suite

<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl

<LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve the type promotion tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl

<LeeF> approved

<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark type promotion tests approved http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action14]

<LeeF> glitter passes 10 out of 10 distinct tests

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl

<LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve the 10 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl

<LeeF> approved

<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark 10 distinct tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl as approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action15]

convene

action items

short name

<AndyS> ==> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/

<LeeF> ericP will ask about having a short document at /TR/sparql with pointers to QL, protocol, results, and JSON?

<LeeF> precedent: was done for SOAP

<AndyS>

<LeeF> ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action16]

implementation report update

<LeeF> things happening: ericP working on coverage, lee working on test overview, EARL summary, note to implementors

<LeeF> also possibly ivan and orri working on service for testing public SPARQL endpoints

fate of the protocol

<LeeF> I see the protocol schedule as being somewhat at-risk given our charter end date of the end of November - still can be done, but a bit doubtful

AndyS: we lack SOAP impls

LeeF: we 1/2-wrote one at IBM
... could take this to the CG
... difficult to put together impl criteria that doesn't include the SOAP bindings

ericP: do impls need to do SOAP?

LeeF: iirc, they just need to do *a* binding

<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-protocol/#conformance

<LeeF> adjourned

ericP: odd that you can impl a non-HTTP, non-SOAP binding and still claim to protoocl conformance

PROPOSED: oh well

APPROVED: no objections

<AndyS> http://jena.hpl.hp.com/~afs/SPARQL-Update.html

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action16]
[NEW] ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [PENDING] but progress [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to generate overview page of data-r2 tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to mark 10 distinct tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl as approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to mark type promotion tests approved http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action14]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Eric+Andy: Collect all the testing feature URIs and put in the documentation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations (object of earl:subject)? [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action05]
 
[DONE] ACTION: LeeF to mark approved sorting tests (1..10) as such [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: LeeF to run the construct tests by 17 Ju [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-dawg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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