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<scribe> scribenick: klotz
<John_Boyer> scribenick, klotz
<John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
http://xformstest.org/2007jun15.html
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=19 , the setfocus, toggle, and setindex actions will run the actions indicated by the deferred-update flags (which will clear the flags) .
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=19 , John Boyer to fix the setfocus, toggle, and setindex actions to run the actions indicated by the deferred-update flags (which will clear the flags). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action01]
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<setvalue ref="abc">
<value context="..." value="."/>
</setvalue>
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Action?id=27 we add the context() function to return the in-scope evaluation context for the element containing the attribute containing the xpath expression.
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<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007May/0007.html
<Steven> "Full message" bug in issues system is fixed; refresh page
<Steven> Thanks to Shane
RESOLUTION: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=47 number 3, delay="" is the default and means synchronous dispathc with no delay; and delay="0" is asynchronous, and delay as a positive integer is a delay as currently specified.
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=47 John Boyer to handle 16 editorial issues. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=47 number 3, John Boyer to change so that delay="" is the default and means synchronous dispatch with no delay; and delay="0" is asynchronous, and delay as a positive integer is a delay as currently specified. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<John_Boyer> 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007May/0007.html
http://xformstest.org/20070615.html
RESOLUTION: For
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=47
issue 16 the in-scop evaluation context is determined
statically, by the lexical position of the handler
definition.
... For
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=47
issue 16 we agree that the in-scope evaluation context is
determined statically, by the lexical position of the handler
definition, and so the secondModel default submission will be
used.
<John_Boyer> 28http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#action-message
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=47 issue 19 we decide to mirror message.
<markbirbeck> This is an explanation of xf:insert in terms of *nodesets*: http://www.formsplayer.com/node/339
<markbirbeck> My point is simply that it starts to get confusing when you want to think in terms of DOM manipulation more generally.
<markbirbeck> You lose the idea of nodeset manipulation.
<scribe> ACTION: In #action-insert "Copying an attribute" example John Boyer to remove references to attribute ordering and add explanations to what the examples are doing (insert attribute, copy attribute if exists, etc.). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action04]
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<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=51 John Boyer and Uli Lissé to create new descriptive example tables for insert and delete using one set of instance data. In general, nodeset is used when you want to pick one of the children of a node and insert before or after that node, and context is used when you want to append or prepend a child inside a node. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action05]
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<scribe> ACTION: Steven Pemberton to write up example of using group to implement modal dialogs that are stylable by CSS and don't use OS windows. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action06]
RESOLUTION: We remove the prompt action from XForms 1.1.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven Pemberton to write document about using parallel action/*[@if] and toggle/case to implement state machine. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action07]
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=74 we accept and remove prompt.
<scribe> ACTION: John Boyer to remove prompt. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action08]
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5: 00 local time
<wellsk> Are the dates for this year (and next) linked in to the public page? http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/
<markbirbeck> thanks Leigh
<markbirbeck> HTML calendar in Google: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/is1t7cbu00vvd5h1ioft1nl19k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
<markbirbeck> XForms WG calendar in Google: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/42pvpv3126jgbjccip85b7hiuk%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
<markbirbeck> You can embed this in the wiki if you like: :)
<markbirbeck> <iframe src="http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=42pvpv3126jgbjccip85b7hiuk%40group.calendar.google.com&title=XForms%20WG%20Calendar&epr=1&height=614" style=" border-width:0 " width="320" frameborder="0" height="614"></iframe>
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=84 , John Boyer to change referenced sections. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action09]
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Appendices?id=128 we accept.
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Appendices?id=128 we accept, John Boyer. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action10]
<Charlie> *ping
RESOLUTION: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=72 part 1 we accept that the wording for display:inline should be changed.
<scribe> ACTION: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=72 John Boyer to change the wording output so that display:inline should be changed. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action11]
RESOLUTION: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=72 part 2 so that there are implementation requirements for MIPs.
<scribe> ACTION: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=72 Steven Pemberton to change the spec so that there are implementation requirements for MIPs. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action12]
RESOLUTION: We accept http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=73 with modifications; we add a value attribute to output/mediatype.
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=73 with modifications; Steven Pemberton to write spec text to add a value attribute to output/mediatype. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action13]
<John_Boyer> Form controls must render upon request an explanation of the current state of a form control, including validity and associated model item properties. Control of this behavior should be made available to stylesheets.
markbirbeck
<John_Boyer> Form controls must provide a default explanation for the above when no user-specified explanation is available.
<Steven> There is a draft FtF page up for Madrid at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FtF_2007_09
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=117 John Boyer to handle all except #27 as editorial and compose reply to issue. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action14]
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=117 #27 we remove the two referenced bullet points about "explanation."
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=117 #27 John Boyer to remove two bullet points about "explanation" in http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#ui-processing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action15]
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<wellsk> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#ui-processing
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=18 we accept with modifications; instead of the half-detached behavior we propose a parallel event context value listing parents of deleted nodes, with positional correspondence.
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=18 John Boyer to write text to add we propose context property to xforms-delete listing parents of deleted nodes, with positional correspondence and close issue. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action16]
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=59 John Boyer to move 4.4.20 and 4.4.21 to move to 4.5. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action17]
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=60 John Boyer to provide proposed new wording. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action18]
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=60 we accept and will re-word.
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=61 John Boyer to add text based on text in model and close issue. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action19]
RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=95 we agree and have done it.
<Steven> wellsk, this is for you: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/phone_meetings
<wellsk> hx
<wellsk> thx
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=115 all except #15 John Boyer to make changes. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action20]
RESOLUTION: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=115 We put src back on instance.
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=115 John Boyer to put back in src on instance with fallback to inline data. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action21]
<raman> just dropping by to say Hello before the F2F winds up.
<Steven> ha!
RESOLUTION: For
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=82
we agree to study John Boyer's proposal binding to text instead
of first text node but not implement it at this
point.
... We defer http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=99
... We approve
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=100
<scribe> ACTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=100 John Boyer to fix reference. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/15-forms-minutes.html#action22]
markbirbeck sorry steven turned off his laptop.
<markbirbeck> I'm reviewing the fanfare for Steven.
<John_Boyer> We're pretty much done now.
<markbirbeck> great.
<markbirbeck> have good journeys home everyone
<Charlie> bye mark
thank you mark
<markbirbeck> a useful meeting, I thought.
<markbirbeck> Luckily Raman stayed away. ;)
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<markbirbeck> See you guys soon.
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