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RDF Data Access Weekly

12 Jun 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Regrets
EliasT, Souri
Chair
LeeF
Scribe
LeeF

Contents


 

ericP, you planning to join us?

<AndyS> Hi Jeen!

<jeen> hi all

convene

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0068/2007-06-05-dawg-minutes.html minutes from 5 June

<jeen> hey Andy

next meeting 19 June, same time, same place

action items

<ericP> http://www.w3.org/mid/20070612144005.GA6160@w3.org

<scribe> ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action01]

action -1

<scribe> ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to walk through one full example of representing an algebraic expression using the XPath-based facet stuff [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action09]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action10]

publication status

<jeen> :)

<ericP> jeen, that was my fault.. very sorry

<jeen> no prob

Got an "ok" from the Director, expect publication on Thursday (14-Jun)

implementation report

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0071.html EricP running through algebra + yacker + XSLT example

summary of implementation report status -

list of facets w/ detection XPath (from EricP's list and Chimezie's list)

classify growing test suite in data-r2

classify test results to find interoperating feature implementations

test suite

<jeen> zakim unmute me

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0070.html AndyS on test status

first group: data-r2/optional-filter

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/optional-filter/manifest.ttl optional-filter manifest

PROPOSED: approve all 3 tests in data-r2/optional-filter/manifest.ttl

AndyS seconds

resolved

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to mark optional-filter tests approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action11]

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/manifest.n3 boolean effective value tests

<ericP> [[

<ericP> PREFIX mf: <$NS_dawgManifest>

<ericP> PREFIX rdfs: <$NS_rdfs>

<ericP> SELECT ?name ?comment ?result ?type

<ericP> WHERE { ?m mf:entries MEMBERS(?entry) .

<ericP> ?entry mf:name ?name .

<ericP> OPTIONAL { ?entry a ?type } .

<ericP> OPTIONAL { ?entry rdfs:comment ?comment } .

<ericP> OPTIONAL { ?entry mf:result ?result } }

<ericP> ]]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/query-bev-6.rq

<AndyS> In CVS I see, FILTER ( ! ?w )

<AndyS>

http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#ebv

<jeen> somewhat belated datapoint but: sesame passes the optional-filter tests

<ericP> [[

<ericP> kicking mirrors to have version dated 200506150903.07 of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/query-bev-6.rq

<ericP> Reflect, repent, count backwards from 5 then hit browser back button and reload ,mirrorstatus.

<ericP> You just might be rewarded

<ericP> Contact sysreq if problems persist

<ericP> ]]

<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/query-bev-6.rq worky now

<chimezie> btw RDFLib passes the optional tests as well

<ericP> tx chimezie

<AndyS> Excellent.

<AndyS> :ext:aseaborne@cvs.w3.org:/w3ccvs -> WWW/2001/sw/DataAccess

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl

<AndyS> Pass 6/6 of moved tests

PROPOSED: approve the 6 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl

andyS seconds

resolved

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to mark http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl approved, and add rdfs:comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action12]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/OpenWorld/

<jeen> sesame passes all but two of the boolean-effective-value tests. I get nullpointerexceptions so the problem is ours not dawgs

<jeen> this is gonna sound stupid but: how do I check out new subdirectories from w3c cvs? 'cvs update' does not seem to give me the newly checked in stuff...

cvs update -d maybe?

<jeen> I luv you; thanks that did it

<AndyS> Add "update -dP" ~/.cvsrc

:-)

<AndyS> Then it always happens.

<AndyS> (1) s/ORDER BY .*// (2) Remove attributes in srx files

<chimezie> hg/mercurial doesn't help either =)

<jeen> ok I'll just type it :)

<jeen> minor request: if you add a new subdir of tests to data-r2, please also update the super manifest (manifest-evaluation.ttl)

<jeen> (i've already added the subdirs we just approved)

<AndyS> Ack

<jeen> no prob; I'm probably the only who actually uses that file in his test framework :)

<AndyS> ARQ passs 18/18 after all updated

EricP passes them too

<jeen> I have to jump some hoops to run tests in data/

PROPOSED: Approve the 18 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/OpenWorld/

EricP seconds

resolved

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to move OpenWorld tests to data-r2, add comments, mark as approved, add to super manifest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action13]

adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to mark http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl approved, and add rdfs:comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to mark optional-filter tests approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to move OpenWorld tests to data-r2, add comments, mark as approved, add to super manifest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action13]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action10]
 
[DONE] ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: ericP to walk through one full example of representing an algebraic expression using the XPath-based facet stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html#action03]
 
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