W3C

TSD TF

2 May 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shadi, Michael, Christophe, Vangelis, CarlosV, CarlosI
Regrets
Tim
Chair
Christophe, CarlosV
Scribe
MichaelC

Contents


Review of the review process document

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/process

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0026.html

cs: considering outcomes of review, added bugs we could discover

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Apr/0003.html

cs: when do we get back to submitter of sample?

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Apr/0023.html

vk: is this shown in structure document?

saz: waiting for group agreement before adding to flowchart

<Christophe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Apr/0023.html

RESOLUTION: accept flowchart from <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Apr/0023.html>

cv: send to WCAG?

saz: we don't know when they'll get back

cv: question about level of improvement when we get things back

saz: major improvement = reject (send it back and redo)
... moderate improvement situation, do we edit, or send back?

cv: what counts as each?

saz: minor is punctuation, editorial, easily done
... anything more substantial involves more work; suggest asking author to take time to fix
... so we can focus on reviewing other test samples, rather than fixing

cs: how do we communicate with author?

saz: as simply as possible

cv: what is threshold for making change vs sending back?

saz: suggest chair discretion based on group member availability

<shadi> ACTION: change "minor improvment" to "reject", and address chair's discretion in the moderate decision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]

<shadi> ACTION: SAZ change "minor improvment" to "reject", and address chair's discretion in the moderate decision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]

<shadi> ACTION: SAZ add item in content review for specName [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]

Potential changes to TCDL

cv: BenToWeb reviewed TCDL
... want to make changes, unsure of priority for W3C
... suggest RDF version

saz: would like to discuss offline

cv: like it though not sure now is right time

ci: prefer RDF, and TCDL not generic right now
... would like to solve those two problems at once, but it needs resources/time

mc: think it's time to focus on test case development, if TCDL works acceptably just go ahead

vk: want improved version, but agree to proceed with test case development

saz: check with ERT, as the WG as a whole would probably be involved

<shadi> ACTION: SAZ bring this discussion to ERT WG to check for interest/resources [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]

mc: also notes that WCAG WG getting notably closer to point they need a good set of test samples to consume (though don't know exactly when still)

<shadi> RESOLUTION: TSD TF more interested in developing test samples than revisiting the metadata at this point in time

Reivew of example entries

http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01

http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList

cs: currently, 2 through structure, 1 through content review
... some issues discussed on list, appear addressed
... need email address of submitter to communicate about issues on submitted samples

cv: will create BenToWeb email alias for purpose

<scribe> ACTION: CS to compile list of issues that came out of test sample reviews and check if/where they were addressed. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action05]

New tests from BenToWeb team

http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action05

<scribe> ACTION: Carlos to "flood the task force with tests" coordinating with BenToWeb authors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action06]

Feedback to submitters of test samples

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Carlos to "flood the task force with tests" coordinating with BenToWeb authors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: change "minor improvment" to "reject", and address chair's discretion in the moderate decision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: CS to compile list of issues that came out of test sample reviews and check if/where they were addressed. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: SAZ add item in content review for specName [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: SAZ bring this discussion to ERT WG to check for interest/resources [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: SAZ change "minor improvment" to "reject", and address chair's discretion in the moderate decision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]
 
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