W3C

Semantic Web Deployment Working Group

24 Apr 2007

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Diego Berrueta, Bernard Horan, Ralph Swick, Alistair Miles, Simone Onofri, Antoine Isaac, Guus Schreiber, Daniel Rubin, Tom Baker
Regrets
Jon Philips, Vit Novacek, Elisa Kendall
Chair
Guus Schreiber
Scribe
Diego Berrueta

Contents


Admin

PROPOSED to accept minutes of 17 April telecon: http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html

RESOLUTION: accepted minutes

tomb proposed next telecon May 8

<RalphS> Ralph: regrets for 8 May; meetings in Banff

RESOLVED: next telecon May 8

<scribe> ACTION: TomB to start questionnaire on date for f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

RalphS: we should revise this action
... week of November 4th or the week of November 11th?

SKOS

Antoine: still waiting for answers
... I don't know what should be done now
... if we got positive answers, we could give a version a week after

guus: we can discuss the comments in a later telecon. We need to publish this
... common way to respond to good documents is to make them optional
... ping reviewers with the new version

<RalphS> Re: [SKOS] Review of SKOS Use Cases and Requirements

<scribe> ACTION: Antoine to make a proposal about SKOS Use Case document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Antoine, Jon, Daniel respond to the SKOS Use Case reviews, target a decision to publish on 17 April [http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action04]

guus: propose to drop the actions on Alan

<TomB> +1 to drop the actions

<scribe> ACTION: Alan to write up the preferredLabel modelling issue [http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DROPPED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal values, and how to represent that in skos [http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09] [DROPPED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action06]

guus: i've been very busy. Any volunteer (to tackle ISSUE-26)?

<scribe> ACTION: Guus revise his ISSUE-26 proposal to account for other options [http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-swd-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to write up two alternatives for representing Collections [http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]

guus: we should start making progress in the issues now

aliman: i suggest relationship with OWL(-DL)
... alan has been cc'ing me in a discussion about OWL 1.1

<RalphS> [Alistair, could you give us a pointer to the owl 1.1 thread archive?]

aliman: we should address mapping between concept schemes
... it doesn't look difficult

guus: i discussed with daniel 2 weeks ago

aliman: should we have narrower, broader across schemes?

daniel: some domains may use more specific properties

guus: we have to give a guideline about equivalence
... skos:skos:related is too general, skos:broader/narrower are too specific

aliman: what's the difference between skos:related and skos:similarTo?

guus: similarTo may be a subproperty of related

aliman: how the retrieval applications should operate on these properties?
... the only way to define the semantics of these properties is through operational uses
... let's think about how retrieval applications should treat these properties in order to determine their semantics

Antoine: actually what you propose as operational semantics of narrower/broader is just one interpretation
... so we don't have the absolute definition of the properties

aliman: you're absolutely right, but it should be at least "the most reasonable" way to operationally use these properties

guss: this operational semantics should be a guideline, not a definition

Antoine: this moves us to the compound concepts
... issue about provenance seems difficult

aliman: probably related with versioning
... SKOS has no notion of version

guus: (about versioning in SKOS) maybe we can't solve this in this WG

aliman: we should have this on the table anyway

guus: I can't see anything specific to SKOS

<aliman> I note that at leasting talking about versioning, both in relation to SKOS specifically, and in relation to RDF and OWL vocabularies more generally, is in our charter, within the Vocabulary Management work area.

Recipes

<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09]

Vocabulary Management

<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to provide outline of work to be done by Apr 17 [http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action11]

RDFa

guus: what's the status?

RalphS: sorry, I couldn't attend to yesterday's meeting

<scribe> ACTION: Ben to send a summary of status of components of specifications will be handled [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action10] [CONTINUES]

<RalphS> record of yesterday's RDFa TF telecon

<RalphS> Simone: RDFa TF discussing issues with W3C validator

<RalphS> ... compatibility of new requirements with current W3C validator

<RalphS> ... also discussing issue of literals, may be similar to a literal issue in SKOS

guus: (to Simone) please summarize through the list

AOB

<RalphS> GRDDL spec review [Diego]

guus: let's suggest to add a paragraph about when to use GRDDL and when to use RDFa

RalphS: it's better to simply say that there are two alternatives

guus: this may confuse readers

<scribe> ACTION: Diego to send the review of GRDDL spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action12]

<TomB> okay, is that a response from the SWD WG if Diego sends it?

<RalphS> yes, thanks, Diego, for the GRDDL review

<scribe> ACTION: Diego to review GRDDL Last Call Doc. Discuss briefly at next week's call [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]

<RalphS> Tom, I believe the record is sufficient to show that Diego was asked to comment on behalf of the WG and this meeting discussed his review briefly but we did not ask for a WG consensus

No further business, meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Diego to send the review of GRDDL spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action12]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine to make a proposal about SKOS Use Case document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to provide feedback on GRDDL Last Call Doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to send a summary of status of components of specifications will be handled [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus revise his ISSUE-26 proposal to account for other options [http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-swd-minutes.html#action07] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: TomB to start questionnaire on date for f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to write up two alternatives for representing Collections [http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Elisa to provide outline of work to be done by Apr 17 [http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action01] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Antoine, Jon, Daniel respond to the SKOS Use Case reviews, target a decision to publish on 17 April [http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action02] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to review GRDDL Last Call Doc. Discuss briefly at next week's call [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-swd-minutes.html#action12]
 
[DROPPED] ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal values, and how to represent that in skos [http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[DROPPED] ACTION: Alan to write up the preferredLabel modelling issue [http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action05]
 
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