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Dave: welcome
<Dave> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-uwa/2007Apr/0000.html
dave: most of work in public
minutes on the member lists, then approval, then published on the public mailing lsit
Rotan: full minutes on the public, or a summary ?
Dave: good question, what is appropriate ?
Rotan: ddwg experience, just the summary
Jim: the minimum work the better
so less work from the irc version, the better
<Kangchan> fully agree to reduce the work
RESOLUTION: post a summary of the minutes to member-uwa list for review at the next meeting, and upon approval making them public and posting link to public-uwa list.
Dave: perhaps not appropriate for everybody, with some people in Korea, other in east coast US
For now we should keep current timeslot, and setup a WBS questionnaire to collect people's preferences and constraints over the next 3 weeks, so as to give newcomers a chance to provide their input.
<Kangchan> Now, it is 23:10 in Korea. ^^
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to create a questionnaire to collect info on the best time for the call [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-uwawg-minutes.html#action01]
Dave: The details are on the UWA WG face to face page. I want to offer our thanks to Mobileaware for hosting us.
Rotan: A pointer to a specific venue page for the f2f will be sent to uwa wg members.
<Rotan> FYI, the location of the F2F is here - http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=h&trf=0&lon=-6.423633&lat=53.290399&mag=1
Dave: The W3C Patent Policy has implications for work items transferred from other W3C Working Groups. I am waiting for details from Ian Jacobs and will pass them on as soon as I can. It seems likely that a call for disclosures will be issued the first time a transferred work item is published by the UWA WG. Work items wouldn't be able to move to Proposed REC maturity level until the disclosure window closes, but there is a way for the Working Group to shorten the window with the consent of the AC Reps for all current members. More details to follow.
dave: There is a publishing moratorium before the May AC meeting. Practical deadline 24 April.
dave: closest work item is CC/PP 2
cedric: i've to rewrite few things, ready for publication like next week
Rhys: i confirm it is ready, as we got it ready for publication before the closure of the DIWG.
dave: Any objections to publication? (none heard)
RESOLUTION: uwawg to publish the LCWD of CC/PP 2
Jimd: can we have a look before and what is the timeline for publication?
<cedric> the LC editors draft is available at http://www.w3.org/2001/di/Group/ccpp2/
steph: ah ?there is already a wd on cc/pp 2 ?
<cedric> yes, FPWD is http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-CCPP-struct-vocab2-20061208/
dave: Let's give everyone one week to voice any objections, i.e. if we will proceed with publication on 20 April if we don't hear any objections prior to next week's call. I will inform the HCG in tomorrow's call. Which groups should we ask to revie the CC/PP 2 Last Call?
Rhys: that's one of the problem, most of the previous interested group are gone now.
so advertising it in HCG is ok. the rationale of CC/PP2 is provide OMA with an updated spec in alignment with UAProf 2. I would recommend we ask Bennett Marks to ask OMA to do a review, also ask W3C DDWG.
<scribe> ACTION: Cedric to prepare CC/PP 2.0 LCWD from editor's draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-uwawg-minutes.html#action00]
Rhys: Keith, Sailesh and Dave helped to work on the new DCCI wd
it is about exposing device characteristics from client side, eg through javascript
long and distinguished history, it is its third group
rhys: mostly editorial issues now
<Rhys> http://www.w3.org/2001/di/Group/di-dpf/2007-04-30/DCCI.html
rhys presents DCCI
<Dave> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-uwa/2007Apr/0007.html
Rhys: main work is to finish the restructuring of section 4. Rhys would like feedback, particularly on the editorial notes
not a very deep technical review now
Sailesh: thanks to Rhys
Keith: thank you too
<Keith> Implementation report draft: http://www.w3.org/2001/di/dci/ir/
Keith: people may be interested in our implementation report
rhys: looking for not changing the normative question
rotan: when we hope to publish that ?
rhys: we are going to publish a WD, soon, matter of weeks, explains that normative changes since CR version means that we need to move back to WD, but expect to move quickly to LCWD.
substantive change from CR was to move to element from node in response to comments from DOM IG
Rhys says that he has mostly made cosmetic changes
Keith: in FT we want to move on and have a publication soon, wants coordinated test within browser
our implementation is working on minimo and firefox, hoping that others will also provide implementations.
Rhys: question on how to access DCCI root node. This can be done in DOM3 without creating a new method
Sailesh: get_feature makes it possible in DOM2
Keith: that exists ?
Rhys: the problem is that you must have a doc object in dom2 in order to be able to call get_feature, but this restriction is lifted in DOM3.
Sailesh: would like to explore if this is not really doable in dom2 before deciding on requiring dom3
Rhys: let's continue the discussion on the list
Keith: agreed that this is important topic to resolve
Rhys: there are reference to oma uaprof at the beginning of the doc
Dave: when are we going to have a public editor's draft?
Rhys: I think I've a draft suitable for my ontology stuff that is ready for a public editor's draft
<Rotan> +1 to doing as much as is possible in public
Rhys: I propose we leave DCCI in member space until publication as a WD, and propose to move ontology to public editors draft.
Rotan: agreed
Dave: w3c-di-wg is now officially closed and we should move editor's drafts to the UWA space. Technical discussion should primarily take place on public-uwa list and not member-uwa list.
Rhys: links to archives on the uwa member pages are not pointing to the right location.
Dave: thanks for the report, I'll fix the links asap.
steph: what do we do with w3c-di-wg and www-di ?
<Rotan> And remember to thank the www-di people for their participation and (continued) interest!
Rhys: pro for closing w3c-di-wg and warning www-di
<Keith> Why do we want to do the work on the external site?
Dave: this was discussed at last DIWG f2f and subsequently on mailing list prior to end of UWA AC Review. The aim to be more open about W3C work, whilst still being able to do some things in member space when needed.
<scribe> ACTION: stef to close w3c-di-wg, send a mail to www-di about new lists, and put an autoresponder on www-di [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-uwawg-minutes.html#action02]
<Dave> see http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-widgets-20061109/
Dave: any volunteers? No one speaks up, Dave offers to do it,
<scribe> ACTION: dave to review WAF WG Widget spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-uwawg-minutes.html#action03]
Adjourned