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john_boyer: has anyone done action items they
want to report?
... embarassing silence...
... we need to get started on action items to be in time for last call
... especially in light of reason comments on mailing list we need to publish
3rd edition
raman: the technical work of the group has been
good but we will probably see more issues on the mailing list relating to w3c
process
... we need to answer on public list even if we do not agree
john_boyer: 1.1 last call deadline has been extended to the end of april, 2007
steven: the issue tracking system has been updated to more closely match the w3c process
<John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/
steven: the new and improved version is also easier to style
john_boyer: can we change the name from xforms working group to forms working group?
steven: yes, it is trivial.
<scribe> ACTION: steven to ask shane to change name of working group in issue tracking system [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-forms-minutes.html#action01]
steven: to log in to issue tracking, contact
shane to get a login
... to get a login ask on email: shane@aptest.com
... mention you are from forms WG
john_boyer: you can start using the system as user guest, already
Nothing to report this week
charlie: we are waiting for the patent working group, otherwise we are ready to go
charlie: the sign-up page for new york f2f is ready
steven: i don't know exactly where we put it yet, as there are potential private information
<Steven> ACTION: Steven to install new FtF page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-forms-minutes.html#action02]
steven: i will get back on that
john_boyer: i will sent an email out today
about that.
... anyone having public examples of xforms?
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Apr/0019.html
<Nick> bcc?
john_boyer: why does an email to
www-forms-editor goto www-forms archive?
....: maybe it was bcc....
raman: i don't think it's a glitch in the
system
... the mails are on the intended mailing lists
john_boyer: i believe the issues addressed in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Apr/0019.html
has been carefully done by the WG
... last call issues:
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Feb/
john: everything arrived after the publication
date or near the piublication date should be entered as last call issues
... and then people will get action items to answer to these issues
... does this sound like a good idea?
...
... okay, so we will do it like that!
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Feb/0005.html
steven: this is not really a last call issue, but anyway we already replied so it is handled
john: do we need to record it as a last call comment?
steven & sebastian: I dont think so.
steven: we replied and he did not have additional comments, so end-of-issue.
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Mar/
john: february done!
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Mar/0000.html
<jturner> yes
john: it must be entered as a last call issue.
the group already agreed to it.
... do we need to reply what we did to the spec. or do we just reply "we
agree" ?
steven: it is enough to reply: "we agree".
... we may also point them to the revised specification.
... but we do not need to make detailed description of what we will do in the
reply.
... also, remember, that all versions of our spec. is now public.
<John_Boyer> xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com <mailto:xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com?Subject=Re%3A%20Telecon%20Agenda%20-%20April%2011%2C%202007&In-Reply-To=%253COF35DB690A.2476813E-ON882572BA.00174810-882572BA.0017826C%40ca.ibm.com%253E&References=%253COF35DB690A.2476813E-ON882572BA.00174810-882572BA.0017826C%40ca.ibm.com%253E>
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Mar/0001.html
john: does anyone disagree to this resolution ?
[no one voices objection....]
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Mar/0002.html
john: how do we respond to this last call issue?
sebastian: i believe the resolution was we need to ask the CDF WG
lars: I already contacted some from CDF and I
posted the reply.
... they said we want to do that but we are not quite there yet
john: so we need remove this capability from our vocabulary?
lars: yes
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Feb/0027.html
john: essential this is , what happens when we
delete the context node - for instance in a sequence of actions
... I believe we do not say anything about what to do when there are no
context node?
... what does the implementors do?
kenneth: we do a no-operation
<Roger> I think is the same case if the nodeset doesn´t exist
joern: i think its a no operation
<Roger> we´ll check it.
john: can implementors sent a note to the list about what they do ?
<SusanB> i'll check
john: if everybody has interpreted as a no-op maybe we can get some language into the spec. describing that behavior.
<Roger> Many thanks & bye
john: top-of-the-hour....
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