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Previous minutes approved.
Next meeting: March 6th - no regrets tendered.
ACTION: [DONE] PaulC and Chris to ask policy WG about CR exit criteria [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-ws-cg-minutes.html#action01]
ACTION: [DONE] Bob to ask addressing for test development for policy assertions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-ws-cg-minutes.html#action02]
Philippe: for Addressing, only IBM responded positively so far.
ACTION: [DONE] Chris to ask xml protocol for test development for policy assertions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-ws-cg-minutes.html#action03]
Chris: Interop event too early for XMLP.
Chris: Asked wg, didn't feel they were ready
for testing yet.
... Policy:: Made request for CR for framework and attachment specs.
... Have call tomorrow.
... If all goes well, CRs published on the 28th.
... Philippe may need to help in Felix's absence.
... Continues to push forward on guidelines, primer, wsdl 1.1 element
identifiers
... Expect an updated WD on the latter soon.
... Upcoming FTF in Sunnyvale, including a first interopathon.
... Final interopathon in Ottowa in May.
... June is the earliest date that CR could advance.
Philippe: Did WG talk about how to do testing?
Chris: We'll talk about that tomorrow. We have
scenarios doc from IBM/MS. Dusting off and updating.
... Adding tests for the new features (xml:base, xml:id, ignorable)
... Have commitments from some members for UDDI attachment (not previously
tested in public interops).
... Scheduled for tomorrow whether a formal testing framework is needed.
... Still have questions on whether remote participation at interopathons
will be possible.
... Need to set up registration that includes non-members.
Philippe: Registration for non-members is
possible - set up separate page.
... Just like the Workshop.
Chris: Need to get that set up soon.
Chris: PER review ended.
... Pulling together comments (non-substantive) to address.
... SOAP 1.2 One-Way MEP. Recieved WSDL comments on that.
... Expects Last Call in about a month.
... Recharter work: Yves was going to pull together an updated version of the
charter.
... One more pass by WG before sending to AC.
Paul: FTF last week, addressed most LC
comments.
... Some interesting ones from Microsoft.
... Interestingly, some comments asked that the patterns be even more
basic.
... Will publish a report on how patterns are supported and used in the
wild.
... Pretty soon, at which point maybe go to PR.
... Basic records what works with tools. Some worrying indications that the
future won't improve.
... Future products may not raise the bar.
... Some people pushing back on attributes even, possibly driven by interest
in a lower common denominator for alternate representations like JSON.
Jonathan: we're really really close. Couple of
issues opened. Test results looks good.
... not close enough to move to PR this week though. One issue is the safety
property.
... the TAG might take this up next Tuesday
... so PR vote likely a week from Thursday
... the drafts are in a good shape. Question about changing the namespace.
... we'll change the tests after the fact if we pick a new namespace
Jacek: WRT the safety issue...
... if the TAG is OK moving it away from WSDL into SAWSDL, would either spec
need to return to LC?
Philippe: Not sure the CG is the right
model.
... Not sure we need to.
Jacek: Considering WSDL's progress, I've
abandoned hope that we could match the schedule.
... We are beginning CR work. Safety coordination is the most significant
issue so far.
Philippe: BTW, not sure the Director will be on the TAG call next Tuesday...
Jonathan: Maybe we can corner him there...
Yves: Missed last week's telcon - some progress on test suite.
Philippe: In LC for Metadata. No comments yet.
Jonathan: WSDL WG having a hard time getting a fresh volunteer. Reduced WSDL impact, so we might be fine.
<Chris> policy will likely have some comments. these have yet to be aproved by the policy WG. we expect to close of the policy f/b to ws-addressing tomorrow
Philippe: Linked to pub moratorium
... One fewer calendar to sync for transition calls
... Survey on resuming chairs calls
... Please respond (Paul, Jacek responded so far)
... New phone numbers for UK, FR
Jacek: using them for a while - no problems to report!
Add Databinding 18-20 April in Edinburg
(already discussed)
(Choreography chairs not present)
Paul left. Defer.
Next meeting March 6th.