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ACCEPTED 2007-02-13 minutes
Guus: Antoine, you sent mail about capturing relationships between labels
antoine: we have a basis for discussion now
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to check that this issue of more specialization than broad/narrow is on the issues list [recorded in [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action03] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action01]
<RalphS> ACTION: [DONE] Guus to check that this issue of more specialization than broad/narrow is on the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action03] [DONE]
[scribe missed some comments by Antoine]
<RalphS> ACTION SKOS specialization [Guus 2007-02-20]
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to check with Veronique on the terms being outside the iso standard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action07] [DROPPED]
<scribe> ACTION: Antoine to check with Veronique on the terms being outside the iso standard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal values, and how to represent that in skos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Alan write up the preferredLabel modelling issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
<RalphS> ACTION: Alistair to rephrase the old issue of skos/owl-dl coexistence and semantics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: guus to pick a SKOS issue and open it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-swd-minutes.html#action13] [DONE]
<Guus> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssuesSandbox
<Guus> SKOS issues list
Guus: let's take a look at the current set of issues
Ralph: the sandbox is
"pre-acceptance" stage.
... we should change the title of the sandbox page.
Guus: let's take issues from the sandbox list as an example of the issue process.
Antoine: should we have the official list in the issue tracker?
Ralph: not what I heard.
... I'm confused as to which of these two pages are which.
<TomB> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssues
Alistair: confused too
<RalphS> [I've just retitled http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssuesSandbox
[scribe is still confused about the status]
Guus: under the impression that we would move this to a real issues page and remove the link
Alistair: did we agree to use the
wiki for SKOS issues, or tracker?
... i was under impression that it would be the wiki
Ralph: Jon had an action?
Jon: yes, regarding recipes, they
are on tracker
... I preferred the tracker, esp. regarding internal linking
and references
Guus: someone has to take the action to move the sandbox issues to tracker
Ralph: in the meantime, let's use the sandbox, where the content is
<Zakim> TomB, you wanted to point out the overlap between http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/IssuesProcess and http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssues
TomB: another doc on the wiki
called IssuesProcess, overlap with SkosIssues
... one way to proceed is to compare those two
... if they're the same, move sandbox to SkosIssues
... overlap is confusing, we should consolidate
... one process doc, one issues doc
Guus: let's take an issue, open
it, and propose a solution
...
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssuesSandbox#head-89dba8974eaba1e2a1253cee178d3f4b6cf5edea
... also
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssuesSandbox#head-0e457cb9f0b2bf56983b8e4c8ffaa8c08936be46
... happy to take over this action from Antoine and propose a
resolution
... propose to own this issue (from 1.3.4) and propose a
resolution
<scribe> ACTION: antoine to capture the issue on capturing relationships between labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04] [DROPPED]
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to capture the issue on capturing relationships between labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04]
<RalphS> [SKOS] relationships between labels [Antoine 2007-02-19]
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to propose a resolution to relationships between labels by next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action11]
<RalphS> [I think we previously recorded Antoine's action as DONE. Guus has a new action to propose a resolution to issue SKOS-I-RelationshipsBetweenLabels ]
<RalphS> action -9
[scribe is lost... if someone can fill in]
Antoine: introduce a new annotation class, "link annotation", instances of this class related to literals that stand for labels we want to link
<aliman> First solution: Term-as-class
<aliman> Second solution: link as annotation based on n-ary relation pattern
Antoine: other solution is to create a new term class, that would represent the current concept labels as resources
<Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to ask for a link to a Use Case for SKOS-I-AnnotationOnLabel
<aliman> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels use cases referenced within
Guus: maybe we should move to the issue tracker
Ralph: Antoine has been updating
the issues sandbox page
... the wiki record suggests that Antoine is the primary
updater for the issues sandbox
... model in mind for tracking the issues?
Antoine: not really, just a sandbox
Guus: any objections to tracker?
Ralph: Antoine did a lot of work for the sandbox page
Guus: can be done over next month
Alistair: we can split the work between Jon, Antoine, and me
Ralph: at what point do issues go
into the tracker
... several things in the sandbox marked "raised"
Guus: for now, only open issues in tracker. Raised one later.
Ralph: so there is a purpose for the sandbox
<aliman> where is the issue tracker stuff?
Guus: yes, raised issues in sandbox, then moved to tracker for "open issues"
<RalphS> Tracker
Ralph: intent is owner of the issue takes an action on the issue
<JonP> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26
Guus: use case document?
Antoine: Some discussion between
Daniel (?) Jon and me about restricting use cases.
... agreed to limit to core use cases that fulfill requirements
listed
... in the document, pointer to wiki and one-liner mentioning
existence of use case
... 8 or 9 summaries in the use cases, matches what Guus said
two weeks ago
Guus: check schedule feasibility next week
<Zakim> aliman, you wanted to ask about new use cases
Alistair: will mention it later
<scribe> ACTION: Jon to update Recipe issue list as per dropping of 1.2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action11] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Jon to update Recipe issue list as per resolution of issue 1.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES]
Guus: as Jon did his actions, assuming there was a resolution, but apparently not. Sorry, misinterpreted.
Jon: there was an action on me to
mark this as resolved and make changes to doc.
... issue resolved but not closed. Marked it as closed, but
noted an action to change doc.
... when action is complete, work is complete.
... lack of additional status in tracker is a limitation
(discussion of tracker features and status of issues)
<Zakim> aliman, you wanted to ask about issue process
Alistair: we've got this issues
process page on the wiki
... nice if someone could take an action to reconcile the
issues process page with the tool and actual
process
<RalphS> ACTION: Ralph write a proposal for bringing http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/IssuesProcess and Tracker into alignment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action15]
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to summarize state of Vocabulary Management draft, add comments, and coordinate work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to contact persons working on versioning in Knowledge Web for Vocabulary Management draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]
<RalphS> Vocabulary maintenance: WP 2.3 and W3C Semantic Web Deployment [Guus 2007-02-20]
<RalphS> scribenick: Ralphs
<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to ask Ben to request a review for RDFa primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/13-swd-minutes.html#action20]
Ben: I think I already requested
that review and the reviews were done before the
face-to-face
... I can ask for another set of reviews if the WG wants, but
I'd like to publish soon
Guus: there were a number of comments on the Use Case document
Ben: yes, Use Cases will wait -- I'm focussing on Primer for now
Guus: I'd like to see mail saying
how you've responded to the review comments
... and propose a decision to publish
... same for Use Case document when it's ready
... if there are significant changes you may wish to ask for
additional comments from the reviewers before proposing to
publish
Ben: the request for additional
comments on Use Cases may happen this week as there have been
significant changes
... we're moving quickly on test cases; Michael and Wing are
making good progress
... we're also very close to having a first draft of XHTML 1.1
module
... which means we'll soon have a path to validating RDFa in
XHTML1.1
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to flag the issue of RDFa REC track on the coordination group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]
<TomB> face-to-face?
<benadida> ACTION: Elisa to contact Daniel for participating in Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/13-swd-minutes.html#action18] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to contact Daniel for participating in Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/13-swd-minutes.html#action18]
action -19
Tom: if we're going to have another face-to-face in June we should start now looking at dates
<scribe> ACTION: Tom propose some dates for next face-to-face, looking at June [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action22]
Guus: I may be able to host in Amsterdam
[adjourned]
<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Antoine to capture the issue on capturing relationships between labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04]