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<scribe> ACTION: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to GEO (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to Chris and the i18n core list (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 / C065 (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather information on options for diacritics in collations (DROPPED) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
Francois: there is no standard for that
Felix: there will be a last call soon I think
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail on xml:base and to write a reply to him (PENDING [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
Francois: relevant for the note on C064/65, I used that information
see mail from Richard at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0040.html
Michael: got some feedback on IDN document
... Mark Davis sent some feedback on the document, I can forward
it to Richard
... he saw some different behavior in IE 7
Richard: What is the different behavior?
Michael describes the mail from Mark at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0028.html
latest draft from Michael at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0032.html
Michael: I tested myself and saw that Mark is right
Francois: what was the difference?
Richard: if you have in language preference box "only English"
... they seemed to have worked out "English
users use only ASCII, no umlaut"
... so if you go to "baecker.com" with AUMLAUT, you will get punycode
... I have en-GB as my setting, you
can't have en (only as "user defined") in IE 7
Francois: so they define ASCII as a new script for "English only"?
Richard: there are many languages which use latin scripts, I wonder how they figured that out
... I get
punycode for en and en-GB
Michael: it associates ASCII with any English language preference
... and latin-1 for any western European
languages
Richard: what test did you do, Michael?
Michael: I understand that it is technically correct what Mark says
... but it might be misleading since IE
7 will work if you have a European language in your preference, even if the character is not from that language
<scribe> ACTION: Richard to contact Russ and others to figure out how IE 7 handles display of Punycode and language preference settings [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
Michael: on the links: some render fine on the screen, but you get a percent escaped URL
Richard: I can remove the links from the table header
Michael: ok
Richard: anther comment from Thomas Roessler
... he said that this is not about pishing
... I wanted to
say that this is a gray area
... if we would say "homograph attack" people would not understand what we mean
Francois: how about "pishing using a homograph attack"?
Richard: I'll have a look and see what I can come up with
Francois: all very good
Richard: the subsection after the table "other pishing concerns" after the table
... I tried to summarize a
lot of information
proposal from Francois at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0042.html
Francois: proposal is to have this note as an erratum
Francois describes the note
Felix: looks good to me
Richard: different wording proposal using "tight"?
Francois: sometimes Unicode is referenced not normatively, so "tied to" would not fit
Richard: ok
... how do we manage errrata?
Francois: you edit the errata page
Richard: do we have to go through a process?
Francois: for a normative change, you have to publish a new version of the spec
... for the non-normative
note, we just publish the erratum, that is it
<fyergeau> http://www.w3.org/2005/02/charmod-fundamentals-errata.html
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-charmod-20050215
Francois: we can have an group internal countdown for two weeks, if nobody protests, we put it on the errata page
RESOLUTION: WG agrees with http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0042.html as an erratum for charmod norm. We will have an group internal countdown for two weeks, if nobody protests, we put it on the errata page
Francois: too late to do s.t., let's drop this
Felix: there will be a last call of full text soon, so we can make a review at last call
Felix gives a summary
Felix: I'll write a mail later about the task force, just a heads up for the moment
Michael: there is a dublicate in sec. 3.1
... there is a typo in sec. 4 first sentence
... in Example
1: the extendend langugae range , why do two hyphens de-*-DE match e.g. de-DE?
Francois: this is not like pure regex
... the de-*-DE is "two sub tags with any sub tag inbetween"
Michael: ok
Felix: the examples are from the matching spec
... will be fine
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to make updates of LTLI taking Michaels feedback into account [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
Richard: review period finishes tomorrow, 25 respones so far
(Richard describes some responses)
(Richard describes the following process)
Richard: if you have ideas on a recruitement plan, please contact me
... after rechartering we have to think
how we will organize the work with the GEO folks
Francois: what is the time line?
Richard: a couple of weeks I think