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<jallan> scribe: JR
<scribe> Scribe: JR
JR: Split doc into 2 sections: 1. Taking into account ne technology 2. Reoganizing, clarifying guidelines document itself
JA: JA is editing document in
place
http://www.tsbvi.edu/technology/uawg/UA_requirements-29jan07.html
... What about settings/Javascript items...
<jallan> create separate section of UAAG that deal with configuration to resolve settings/preference negotiations (platform, browser, javascript, and author created preferences - accesskeys, ajax stuff)
CL: Maybe this would be a
seperate section
... When settings conflict - we want to talk about
resolving
JA: Will send this out when
done...
... On to 2. shift focus back to base browser (make user agent
base provide the accessibility model)
CL: Goes back to discussion of
how we define UA and who is the audience
... We were talking about a shift towards the browser
... But then getting push back from PF
JR: Maybe a core/optional
structure...
... core is things browser has to do, optionla is things that
plugins or ATs can provide.
CL: Yes but will be
controversial
... Longstanding example is lack of keyboard control of
mouseover events
... Things aren't "real" until they are supported by more than
one browser
JA: We have question mark on chrome customization
CL: There might be customization
of UI - e.g abbreviation expansion
... And of course customization of content
... One part is how you interact with content...
... Other is what information am I exposing
... There are other customizations like the toolbar etc
... Diff categories...
PP: OK but verbosity etc. isn't
in base browser
... Whole section 2 is about providing programmatic
access
... Browser is a model with a view strapped on top
CL: Number 2 is about the
model....model 3 is more about the view
... and io customization
... 2.2 should move outr then
PP: Have to provide API to do
customization - 2.2.1
... Rem 2.2
... 2.2: But what if you want to access the model?
CL eg. get to the DOM
<jallan> allow extensions to access the 'accessibility model' (DOM, accessibility API)
JA: 2.3.2 "extensions to the model"
<jallan> Implementation of appropriate DOM [HTML DOM incomplete because doesn't have accessible information for extensions to the browser (JS, flash, XUL?), CSS, scripting]
CL: OK
JA: Taking notes during talking
so extra bullets are present
... On to 3. explain how to demonstrate compliance through an
accessible view and controller using the appropriate UIs
(browsesr and extenstions, assistive technology, other
UAs)
... 3.2 should be moved to re-structuring
CL: Number 3 says hard for base browser to comply so gives was to specify what plugins AT's are needed to support conformance
JA: Concerned that we have shifted away from model, view, controller
CL: 4. is more about new techniques ("update UAAG to reflect the emerging internet technologies ")
JA: OK this sounds like big chunks for main outline of doc...
CL: Didn't JR have new outline
(a) Success criteria for *user interface "chrome"*
(b) Success criteria for *rendered content display*
(c) Success criteria for additional authoring support
<jallan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006OctDec/0053.html
"Guideline A.1: Authoring tool must facilitate access by assistive
technologies"
Perceivable (new A.2), Operable (new A.3), Understandable
<scribe> (new A.4)
JR: ABOVE is a proposal JR made to ATAG group.
JA: No meeting next week
<scribe> ACTION: JR to Send JA the newest outline. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-ua-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: JA, JR Do editorial fixes on requirements document. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-ua-minutes.html#action02]
JA: Will be in AUstralia first 3
wks of March...
... Not sure on impact of schedule
All: lots of discussion of call logistics while at CSUN
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