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<scribe> scribe: toufic
umit: next meeting in two weeks
<fsasaki> (felix says regrets for next meeting, will rejoin in three weeks)
umit: any coordination meeting in-between because of deliverables?
maryann: it's an on-going process
umit: wasn't clear which work items were in and which were out
fred/maryann: we should clear that up
maryann: what hard constraints do we have for generating next drafts
prasad: can generate the
diffs
... we have to send it around jan 9, that's good enough
<Frederick_Hirsch> Note that last editor call minutes not clear - what is delivered in January will be best effort and what editors are able to do
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Dec/0045.html
<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Dec/0045.html
toufic: actions 92, 94 need review in this group
<prasad> 92 is closed?
<maryann> action 94 and 96
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0012.html
<maryann> toufic: needs the group to help before closing
<maryann> toufic: question -- there is a pointer in the framework that points to the primer
<maryann> toufic: the bug had some changes which were done, but there is one thing still not done, which is the pointer from the framework ( normative) to primer ( non-normative)
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3965
<maryann> fred: where is the proposal for the link?
<maryann> Add a pointer to the 4.3.4 PolicyReference that points forward to the newly
<maryann> proposed text in the Primer. Editor's discretion as to adding reference to
<maryann> Guidelines document, Section 3.6.
<maryann> this is in bug http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3965
<maryann> umit: we should just ask back to the working group if we don't know what to do
<maryann> toufic: i'll add it then
<maryann> umit: we could just drop a note to the chairs
<maryann> +1
<scribe> ACTION: toufic to ask chairs about forward pointer in http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3965 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - Ask chairs about forward pointer in http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3965 [on Toufic Boubez - due 2006-12-27].
<maryann> umit: paul will be able to find it
<maryann> toufic, i can't find it in the minutes
<maryann> touf: the other action item is 96
<maryann> TOPIC- action 96
action 96 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0020.html
<maryann> toufic: asir asked me to look over it
<maryann> toufic: I made 7 of the 9 changes and have 2 questions
<maryann> toufic: asir asked me to get feedback on the edits
a) s/WS-Policy Assertions are XML expressions that communicate the requirements/WS-Policy Assertions communicate the requirements/
<maryann> toufic: asir is proposing to remove "xml expressions"
<maryann> prasad: xml is only one of the rendering languages
<maryann> umit: but we don't have anything about doing it in any other language
<maryann> prasad: there is text in the framework that says the lang is not limited to XML only
d) s/A provider of WS-Policy Assertions/A provider who expresses capabilities and requirements of a Web service as policies/
<maryann> toufic: so i will take that input and make the change ( regarding XML expressions)
<maryann> toufic: the change seems to be overly complicated
<maryann> prasad: i think he's trying to say they are requirements on the provider, provider is not providing the policy, but is providing the actual capabilities
<maryann> toufic: 3.1..3 is the section where this change would be made
<maryann> umit: i agree
<maryann> +1
<scribe> scribe: toufic
maryann: asir assigned it to me to follow up with umit
umit: has expressed a need to sleep
maryann: new date Jan 3
prasad: just finished the change
fred: done and checked in
umit: assigned to everybody
maryann: not on critical path, not needed until next year after doc publication
umit: still open
... daveO, do we have a room?
daveO: no action required, we have the room
fred: it was two docs
daveO: suggests an overly complicated process to resolve
maryann: it was for guidelines and primer
<prasad> http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-ws-policy-minutes.html
i don't see any editorial actions ...
umit: no other editorial actions from today's WG call
prasad: just to be clear, are we sending all four documents to WG?
fred: i thought that was the intent
maryann: +1
next meeting chair: Dave Orchard
next meeting scribe: Umit
<dorchard> http://www.flickr.com/photos/asir-selvasingh/sets/72157594425466844/
happy holidays to everybody
felix
could you please generate the minutes?
<fsasaki> sure
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