W3C

TSD TF

12 Dec 2006

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shadi, Christophe, Michael, Chris, CarlosI, ChrisR
Regrets
Shane, CarlosV, Daniela, Vangelis
Chair
Christophe
Scribe
Chris

Contents


Selection of monitoring tools

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2006Dec/0013.html

CS: choice between bugzilla and moinmoin wiki
... not sure what level of automation we need
... my impression is that most of group is in favour of bugzilla (although I don't find it very friendly)

MC: was a fair about of overhead to initially setup and small overhead as we progress for bugzilla.
... Now bugzilla is working quite well.
... Wiki seems easiest for public but Bugzilla also offers quite good access to info.
... We're now using a home grown tool in WCAG group because Bugzilla did not support a few things.

CR: Wiki seems easiest but Bugzill can work too. Don't have strong feelings either way.

CI: Can go either way.

SAZ: proposes using Wiki to start. Easy and quick to setup with option to switch to bugzilla if problems arrise.
... Can't think of any features that are missing from Wiki and present in Bugzilla that would cause us to use Bugzilla.

MC: WCAG group tracks issues differently from this group.

SAZ: OK to try out Wiki? (but still give Christophe chance to check with people not on call today)

resolution: (not a formal decision but...) recommend that group goes with Wiki.
... (not a formal decision but...) recommend that group goes with Wiki.

<scribe> ACTION: Christophe should check with people not on call regarding resolution. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]

<Christophe> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/process

Review of evaluation process for test samples

<Christophe> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/process

SAZ: need to plug in tool for steps 2 and 3.
... Need to check for correct copyright notice.

CS: Should start entering a few test samples to check process.

SAZ: There were 3 test samples uploaded already.
... We should cross review the test samples.

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/xhtml/metadata/sc2.5.1_l1_001.xml

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/xhtml/metadata/sc2.5.1_l1_002.xml

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/xhtml/metadata/sc2.5.1_l1_003.xml

CS: Already added links between location and techniques.

SAZ: volunters should take these test files and apply to steps 1,2 and 3 in process. (step 1 is already done)

CI: then post review to list?

SAZ: yes, this is what would be done using Wiki/Bugzilla but we don't have tool yet so use mailing list.

<scribe> ACTION: CR will take test file 1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: CI will take test files 2 and 3. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]

SAZ: TCDL document has been updated.

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL

<scribe> ACTION: CS will make changes to TCDL usage document that reflect changes to TCDL (location/technique) and make public. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]

SAZ: need to have WCAG and ERT to review TCDL status.

<scribe> ACTION: SAZ will post status update to WCAG and ERT lists so those groups can review TCDL documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: MC will try to reserve an agendum item on WCAG call to describe progress of this group. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action06]

MC: Posting to mailing list may be missed so important to bring up on call.
... Will try to schedule agendum but SAZ or CS may make presentation.

Templates for TCDL metadata

<shadi> http://bentoweb.org/refs/TCDL2.0/sc3.1.1_l1_001.xml

<shadi> http://bentoweb.org/refs/TCDL2.0/scx.x.x_lx_xxx.xml

SAZ: Perhaps should be uploaded to CVS (currently on BenToWeb site)?

CS: sure, where?

SAZ: on root level of test samples repository
... Would like to see real example so prefer first sample (not one with 'xxx's).

CS: OK will use one with real Success Criteria.

SAZ: Would like to see more comments, especially at start of doc.

CS: Will update comments.
... Sample with 'xxx' has more comments and will move those over to other sample.

SAZ: (jumping back to review of samples) Can you post comments for next weeks call?

CI and CR: yes, should be ready by next week.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Christophe should check with people not on call regarding resolution. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: CI will take test files 2 and 3. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: CR will take test file 1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: CS will make changes to TCDL usage document that reflect changes to TCDL (location/technique) and make public. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: MC will try to reserve an agendum item on WCAG call to describe progress of this group. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: SAZ will post status update to WCAG and ERT lists so those groups can review TCDL documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-tsdtf-minutes.html#action05]
 
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