Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-11-15T11:00-0400

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Nov/att-0027/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html__charset_us-ascii minutes 1 Nov

RESOLUTION: to approve minutes 1 Nov

PROPOSED: to meet again 22 Nov

IanD: I'll scribe

RESOLUTION: to meet again 22 Nov, Ian d. to scribe

Cross-document Introduction

<scribe> ACTION: iand to review Murray's suggested intro [CONTINUES [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: iand to review Murray's suggested intro [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]

DanC: Ian, pls note Brian M's comments on the intro while you're at it

GRDDL Spec: General issues

Ian: OK

[#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML

DanC: pending_tests include "be robust in the face of unknown serializations", "you may support turtle"

Schedule

<HarryH> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/#charter_history

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/#sched

DanC: the "no CR" plan assumes having tests concurrent with resolving issues; we're not going as fast as I'd hope

Harry: I can contact everybody about thier work list

Murray: maybe you could put together a work list and schedule.

Harry: well, the agenda is supposed to work that way, but actions are lastingn longer than a week

<scribe> ACTION: Harry to update weekly agenda with durations/dates/schedule info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: chimezie to develop test case to demonstrate both sides of the issue with #issue-output-formats [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]

[#issue-mt-ns]

<scribe> ACTION: DannyA to elaborate on issue-mt-ns, in particular RDF not labelled as application/rdf+xml. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to notifiy TAG of interaction between issue-mt-ns and TAG issues on mime types and namespaces [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action06]

<HarryH> TAG: "Follow your nose" solution seems to be generally accepted to TAG

<HarryH> By "follow your nose" we mean that triples should be in the GRDDL result document for DanC's test case.

. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Nov/0060.html

<HarryH> Murray: "Follow your nose" - if you can follow URIs to find new information you need, good for you

<HarryH> DanC: Just given MIME-type and content, should your GRDDL result doc have triples?

<HarryH> DanC: Currently test suite says "no" and DanC thinks he's wrong, TAG agrees.

http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec#issue-mt-ns

<HarryH> So we've had a third bullet.

<HarryH> PROPOSAL: RDF/XML statements labelled as application/xml constitute a "document whose meaning includes the RDF statement ..."

<HarryH> DanC doesn't like that wording.

<HarryH> So he suggests we postpone

PROPOSAL: the GRDDL result of an RDF/XML document served as application/xml is the graph specified by the RDF syntax spec

DanC: yes, I'll move the XProc bullet from issue-mt-ns to issue-whichlangs

<HarryH> Chime: prefers to use the word "parse" rather than the more abstract graph.

<scribe> ACTION: Harry and Brian to rewrite second part of primer to use Brian and Dan's instance data. [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action07]

Harry: we can check in what we've got

hello-world test case

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#title_author

<iand> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/titleauthor.html

Revision: 1.6 $ of $Date: 2006/11/15 16:41:54

output is http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/titleauthor-output.rdf

PROPOSED: to approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#title_author incl http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/titleauthor.html 1.7 and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/titleauthor-output.rdf 1.3 of 2006/11/07 06:48:58

"These test don't involve namespace documents, so they're easy to run offline." should say something about relative URIs and bases

<scribe> ACTION: IanD to study http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#title_author [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action08]

ISWC buzz, WWW2006 tutorial

<scribe> ACTION: Harry to send info about WWW2007 GRDDL tutorial [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/15-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action09]

HH: there has been a suggestion to combine the GRDDL tutorial with an RDFa tutorial; I'm not sure about that

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Present: DanC HarryH Murray_Maloney Ian_Davis bwm Chimezie_Ogbuji
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