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cs: will needs to clean up some minor details with TCDL 2
saz: everyone will need to review documents
that are online
... need one week formal review before the docs go to review by other WG
sa: what is the main goal with TCDL
saz: TCDL provides metadata for the test samples for WCAG2
cs: TCDL files will demonstrate success and failure of a WCAG 2.0 technique
saz: TCDL is the metadata format for doining this
<Christophe> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL
saz: since shane has missed a few calls, he can take a fresh look at using TCDL document
sa: how do we demonstrate examples such as
explicit vs implicit form label association
... to what level of detail do we describe the test
saz: if it is an error we point to the error
... TCDL links specific tests to WCAG 2.0 technique
cv: there was no reaction to the TCDL 2 document
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL
cs: we decided to require link to WCAG2
technique
... that is not in the usage document yet
RESOLUTION: each test sample developed by TF must be linked to a WCAG 2.0 technique or failure
saz: will be compiling a few editorial issue on document and will be sending them to the list
cv: do we need to look at the introduction
ci: I have no problem with the introduction
saz: worried that it is not friendly to new visitors
ci: small paragraph describing each element
would be good
... also provide a template with each element
saz: templates and examples are good and clear
but we should not describe element
... this will keep size of document smaller
ci: a small description would be helpful
saz: some elements (ie title) don't need a
description
... elements that need extra consideration will have expanded description
ci: global TCDL should be global structure of the metadata
saz: many headers and subheaders link to
specification
... would like to see a more descriptive document
tb: are there two levels of audience
saz: primary audience is the public
... and how they contribute test samples
tb: will there be a way to track test samples to avoid repetition
saz: there will be a web view of the samples
... we will also provide examples and templates
cv: the document is still rough but it may be difficult to keep it short
saz: overview section listing all the terms
... each term is linked to specification
... terms with specific usage get described in more detail
cs: there is a section called "terms and definitions"
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10-Schema/#terms-list
saz: a listing similar to that used for earl might be good
<scribe> ACTION: Shadi will work with Christophe in fine tuning the usage document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]
sa: would like to create a sample TCDL file
saz: learning by doing is good
... we need to compare samples to see if we are all thinking the same
... we can start on level 1 techniques for creating TCDL sample files
do: adopted a benToWeb file should she use another example as a template
saz: samples that are uploaded belong to the
group
... copyright for the uploaded documents belongs to w3c
<Tim> http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2005/01/test-faq#legal
saz: any work done in the group is a collective work of the group
<Tim> Test FAQ Question on legal issues link
do: what do we expect at the end
saz: a repository of test samples
cs: will update his samples
saz: we need to start using the CVS system
<scribe> ACTION: Christophe will add information about the file heirarchy to the usage document. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Daniela and Vlachogiannis will upload their test samples to CVS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: Everyone will review tests and send comments to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Shane will also upload a test sample [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-tsdtf-minutes.html#action05]