IRC log of eow2 on 2006-08-14

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21:21:30 [shawn]
zakim, this will be eow2
21:21:30 [Zakim]
ok, shawn; I see WAI_EOWG(EOW2)5:30PM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
21:23:37 [hbj]
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21:27:12 [Zakim]
WAI_EOWG(EOW2)5:30PM has now started
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21:28:59 [Andrew]
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21:30:05 [Zakim]
+ +45.20.43.aaaa
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21:30:26 [shawn]
zakim, aaaa id helle
21:30:26 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'aaaa id helle', shawn
21:30:30 [shawn]
zakim, aaaa is helle
21:30:30 [Zakim]
+helle; got it
21:32:06 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
21:32:06 [Zakim]
On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Loughborough, Shawn, helle, Andrew_Arch
21:32:08 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Andrew, ben, hbj, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn
21:33:29 [Zakim]
21:33:37 [ben]
zakim, ??P22 is Ben
21:33:37 [Zakim]
+Ben; got it
21:36:22 [David]
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21:39:17 [David]
scribe: David
21:39:35 [David]
Topic: process document
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21:40:35 [Andrew]
zakim, +[IPcaller] is Henny
21:40:35 [Zakim]
sorry, Andrew, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
21:40:46 [Andrew]
zakim, IPcaller is Henny
21:40:46 [Zakim]
+Henny; got it
21:41:01 [David]
topic: transtion document
21:41:13 [David]
topic: process
21:41:31 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
21:41:31 [Zakim]
On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Loughborough, Shawn, helle, Andrew_Arch, Ben, Wayne_Dick, Henny
21:41:33 [Zakim]
On IRC I see David, Andrew, ben, hbj, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn
21:42:28 [David]
zakim, who's making noise
21:42:28 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who's making noise', David
21:42:41 [David]
zakim, who's making noise?
21:42:52 [Zakim]
David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: helle (19%), Andrew_Arch (60%), Wayne_Dick (4%), Henny (43%)
21:43:54 [David]
zakim, who's making noise?
21:44:05 [Zakim]
David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_MacDonald (4%), Shawn (90%), helle (28%), Henny (26%)
21:44:27 [David]
zakim, mute helle
21:44:27 [Zakim]
helle should now be muted
21:44:43 [David]
zakim, unmute helle
21:44:43 [Zakim]
helle should no longer be muted
21:44:58 [David]
zakim, mute Henny
21:44:58 [Zakim]
Henny should now be muted
21:48:37 [shawn]
21:53:35 [David]
zakim, unmute Henny
21:53:35 [Zakim]
Henny should no longer be muted
21:55:16 [shawn]
21:55:24 [David]
We looked at the diagram, still not under consensus, send back for review.
22:00:52 [David]
some discussion about the tone. do we need to say consensus, braod based... shawn responds that there were change logs recommendations included those things.
22:03:11 [David]
overall most say it is in a good direction
22:11:51 [David]
Say somethng about them being stable and will be around for a while
22:13:48 [David]
consent to remove content in the minutes "(To learn how these WAI guidelines fit in with Web development, see Essential Components of Web Accessibility, particularly the Guidelines for Different Components section.) "
22:16:00 [David]
W3C Notes - play around with them to tighten up... say what notes not...
22:21:35 [David]
kill "which are called WAI Resources]"
22:38:11 [David]
need to make sure that that people feel welcome to submit only one comment...
22:43:59 [David]
say "a working group" rather than "the working group"
22:51:09 [David]
last call says that we formally have to respond to all comments... but other stages don't mention responses ..perhaps we should clarify what the resonse obligations are or ar not at other levels.
22:51:35 [David]
gather imlementation experiences to jargonny...
22:51:58 [David]
22:55:31 [David]
no other comments, see also notes directly in the documents.
22:55:48 [David]
topics: transition WCAG 1-2
22:56:30 [Zakim]
23:00:33 [David]
23:01:19 [David]
basically it is good
23:01:21 [shawn]
*rough* initial ideas:
23:03:56 [David]
I have to Go... thanks folks... need a new scribe...
23:04:48 [Zakim]
23:05:33 [ben]
Topic: [EARLY ROUGH IDEAS] Managing the Transition from WCAG 1.0 to WCAG 2.0
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scribe: ben
23:09:05 [ben]
zakim, mute Andrew
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Andrew_Arch should now be muted
23:14:41 [ben]
BC: Is intro. information about why a transition might be appropriate / what the advantages and disadvantages are needed?
23:17:42 [shawn]
ACTION: Henny, CHANGELOG: earlier in doc: information about why a transition might be appropriate / what the advantages and disadvantages are
23:24:27 [ben]
questions to ask in review: 1) are there things I no longer need to do? 2.) are there new requirements? 3.) are there assumptions I've had that should change?
23:24:55 [ben]
... what is my current WCAG 1.0 conformance level?
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WAI_EOWG(EOW2)5:30PM has ended
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Attendees were David_MacDonald, Loughborough, Shawn, +45.20.43.aaaa, Andrew_Arch, helle, Ben, Wayne_Dick, Henny