ISSUE-84

ConstructionOfSystematicDisplaysFromGroupings

State:
POSTPONED
Product:
SKOS
Raised by:
Antoine Isaac
Opened on:
2008-01-23
Description:
From [1]:

> I propose the following section of the SKOS Semantics wiki draft as resolution
of ISSUE-33 "Grouping Constructs" [2]:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Grouping?action=recall&rev=2>
>
> This section implements the "Minimal Fix" proposal [2], with a few additional
> axiomatic triples to make explicit the OWL typing of properties and the
> disjointness of skos:Collection and skos:ConceptScheme.
>
> Note that this section does not address the issue of constructing a systematic
> hierarchical display, but delegates this responsibility to the SKOS Primer.
> Note also that the SKOS Primer section on grouping constructs is yet to be 
>done, and that in particular I have not met Antoine's concerns below regarding
> nested collections.
>
> However, I suggest we accept this resolution for now (because it does fix the
> actual issue), and raise a new issue regarding the representation and 
> construction of systematic hierarchical displays.

(Antoine's comment on nested collections are at [3])

Now from [4] (no need to thank me Alistair ;-p)

> However, in the absence of any presentational information, there could be a
> default method of constructing a systematic display. To handle SKOS grouping
> constructs, this would require an algorithm which is *fairly* sophisticated -
> certainly not straightforward to a novice hacker. The onus is on me to provide
> a reference implementation :)

This was reflected in [5]:

>(Statement 2) The SWDWG MAY publish an algorithm to generate a default 
> thesaurus systematic display from an RDF graph using the SKOS vocabulary.
> However, applications are not required to use the algorithm, and MAY use any
> means to convey information required to construct a thesaurus systematic 
>display.

The current Primer [6] in its section on Collections of Concepts (4.1) does not
propose anything:

>  A systematic (hierarchical) display can then be generated including the
> concept grouping "milk by source animal", as presented in the example 
>introducing this sub-section. The skos:broader hierarchy and the collection 
>membership information can be used for this, but the process still requires a 
>dedicated algorithm, the implementation of which is left to specific 
> applications.

Shall we change this? 


[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2007Jun/0012.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/33
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2007May/0010.html
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2007Jun/0016.html
[5] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/PresentationInformation
[6] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DraftPrimer
Related emails:
  1. ISSUE-84: ConstructionOfSystematicDisplaysFromGroupings (from dean+cgi@w3.org on 2008-01-23)
  2. Re: ISSUE-84: ConstructionOfSystematicDisplaysFromGroupings (from aisaac@few.vu.nl on 2008-01-23)
  3. Re: ISSUE-84: ConstructionOfSystematicDisplaysFromGroupings (from diego.berrueta@fundacionctic.org on 2008-01-23)
  4. Re: RIF: Comments on SKOS Primer (from aisaac@few.vu.nl on 2008-01-25)
  5. Several emails to reply to (from Margherita.Sini@fao.org on 2008-02-04)
  6. Re: RIF: Comments on SKOS Primer (from aisaac@few.vu.nl on 2008-02-04)
  7. [Fwd: [SKOS] Issues Review (from alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk on 2008-02-21)
  8. [SKOS] Issues Review (from alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk on 2008-02-21)
  9. Meeting Record: 2008-06-24 SWD Telecon (from sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk on 2008-06-25)
  10. [SKOS] Proposal to postpone ISSUE-84 ConstructionOfSystematicDisplaysFromGroupings (from aisaac@few.vu.nl on 2008-07-01)
  11. meeting record: 2008-07-01 SWD WG telecon (from jphipps@madcreek.com on 2008-07-08)
  12. Summer telecons [was: meeting record: 2008-07-01 SWD WG telecon] (from schreiber@cs.vu.nl on 2008-07-09)
  13. RE: Summer telecons [was: meeting record: 2008-07-01 SWD WG telecon] (from Margherita.Sini@fao.org on 2008-07-09)
  14. Re: Summer telecons [was: meeting record: 2008-07-01 SWD WG telecon] (from schreiber@cs.vu.nl on 2008-07-09)

Related notes:

2008-07-01: [rrs] RESOLVED: Postpone ISSUE-84 as (a) constructing such displays does not require changes in the SKOS vocabulary, (b) Diego's proposal [2] demonstrates that some form of implementation is feasible, and (c) we don't have much time to investigate further. (per Antoine's message of 1 July [1]. [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0001.html [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0164.html