<Hassan> yes

<igor> +1

<Donald_Chapin> =1

yes

<ChrisW> scribenick: johnhall

August meeting may be cancelled

decidenext week

august 15 meeting

<ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Jul/att-0024/RIFminutes711.html

minutes changes requested

Frank - message not received

<FrankMcCabe> frankmccabe@mac.com

<ChrisW> ACTION: chris to ask sandro to change Frank's email address [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/18-rif-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

CW will change Frank email address

postpone minutes acceptance next week

no agenda changes

liaison - SPARQL an open issue

csma - action item to resolve

<Donald_Chapin> No

UC actions

<PaulaP> ok

<ChrisW> action 39 to be postponed until more data on RIFRAF

<ChrisW> action 40 dropped

<AlexKozlenkov> To some extent I am looking into analysing JBoss Rules conditions sublanguage

<AxelPolleres> still continued, will send mail later today.

<DavidHirtle> here it is:

<DavidHirtle> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Document_issues

<DavidHirtle> (that action was perhaps supposed to be on me, not DaveR)

<DavidHirtle> it's done... but there are still problems with IE

<AlexKozlenkov> hold on

sorry, this is very fuzzy sound, I can't make it allout

action to announce completed

contact commrule vendors continued

<ChrisW> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Document_issues

list of issues from FTF or sub on UC tomove to Wiki

csma - determine priorities

ensure that they are all rewal issues

which CSF does XML syntax support

context is - discussed before 2nd working draft

req is to get support links right

<FrankMcCabe> this is already done?

<AlexKozlenkov> ok

CW - if not spoken to means low priority

<DavidHirtle> no, it's not done

1 is low

2 was removed from diagram pending discussion

<AlexKozlenkov> could anyone clarify?

AK why was this removed

<AlexKozlenkov> exactly, why?

<ChrisW> ^AK^Frank^

<AlexKozlenkov> I think it is a not an unimortant issue

<FrankMcCabe> technically, I think that compliance is highly important for interoperability

compliance model supported interop, but link was removed

2 low, but easy to resolve

<AlexKozlenkov> let's reinstate it

3 a 1: Use case 2.2 not convincing

<DaveReynolds> Suggest that all of those under #3 are low priority edit/tweak suggestions

CW - are there any critical - or are all low?

<Donald_Chapin> +Q

<Donald_Chapin> +queue

<ChrisW> try q+

csam - meta-issue, unification, will submit

<AlexKozlenkov> donald, it's "q plus"

<ChrisW> action csma to describe new issue making use cases more consistent

DC items 2, 3, 4b 6 are high priority

DC 5 can be deleted

csma 2 3 require clarification

cw 2 3 and 6 were not well understood

DC who to ask to help focus claification

cw start with email that describes

csam will discuss with DC

<ChrisW> issues are 4.b.2, 4.b.3, 4.b.4.b, and 4.b.6 to be high priority

<AxelPolleres> +1 to csma that external calls are high priority

<ChrisW> 4.b.5 can be dropped

<ChrisW> 4.b.4 is high priority

No other requests

cw - other proposals to drop items are welcome

<DavidHirtle> yes, he is here

MK present

csma - last time didn't remember action

CW does anyone

will be part of action on semantics of condition language

<ChrisW> action 43 replaced by action 65

61 in progress

will post questionnaire

release fo people to look at

then do it for real

<ChrisW> action 66 completed

Sorry, my sound is fuzzy, I can't get this

<ChrisW> paula: it would be good to "split" some requirements into detailed requirements that add discriminators to RIFRAF

cw - people must read PLP email in prep for next week

<AlexKozlenkov> I totally agree

cw - discriminators should be about how machines process rules

<AlexKozlenkov> It is a feature of Prova to have, for example, communication actions available in conditions

<AlexKozlenkov> Please, do that Paula

plp can propose some new discriminators

<AlexKozlenkov> Paula, I will be in touch

<PaulaP> ok, thanks

<ChrisW> ACTION: paula to propose new set of discriminators relevant to classes of rules [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/18-rif-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

csma - close action and new one to propose new set of discriminators, relevant to classes of rules

hassan - problem classifying rule on syntax

<csma> ACTION: paula to propose new set of discriminators relevant to classes of rules [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/18-rif-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<AlexKozlenkov> we need annotations

<ChrisW> action 66 closed

<ChrisW> trackbot, leave

can be interpreted differently

<ChrisW> trackbot, goodbye

csma - lower level discrimintors

hassn - Jrules - seq, normal, analys

cw - action is on paula

<AlexKozlenkov> that is not good, it should be addressed by annotation

Tech design

<AlexKozlenkov> not until next week

68 Email sent

condition part maps to frame logic

67 completed

csma - was email sufficient for MK?

64 csma - discussion to extend to cover Horn logic

<ChrisW> Harold, you there?

HB not present

<DavidHirtle> (he was here...)

<Harold> I'm here.

<Harold> Not yet sent.

<PaulaP> continued

<PaulaP> hope to have it this week

63 continued

<ChrisW> harold, is your action to start an email discussion complete?

62 continued

22 continued

20 continued

<AlexKozlenkov> difficult

<PaulaP> I'll try to have something this week

csma - action be end of week?

22 no, 20 yes

22 - hope for next week

63 try by end of week

<csma> +1

<JeffP> +1

<PaulaP> +1

<Hassan> +1

<Francois> +12

<Donald_Chapin> +1

<Francois> quit

<Hassan> bye

<AlexKozlenkov> bye

<JeffP> bye

<PaulaP> bye

I lost my phone connection and can't get back in

my sound was fuzzy for quite a lot of the meeting

I will have to follwo some items up by email

how do I save the mIRC file as a text file so that I can edit it?

<csma> John, the draft minutes are available at the URL above

thanks

<csma> where RRSAgent says "I have made the request to generate http..."

<csma> See it? Can you access the file?

<csma> You can then just download and edit the file (HTML or whatever format you prefer, but, when finished with editing

<csma> ... circulate the minutes in either html or text format - no MS Word or such proprietary formats here :-)

<csma> Bye

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