blast. missed rrs agent. Will resent once it is recording

logging now?

<eneumann> yes it should be

<mscottm> just dialed in again and.. phone problem?

http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~lenov/PUBLIS/Lenov2005c.pdf

http://sbml.org/wiki/MIRIAM_URI_Set

http://www.geneontology.org/doc/GO.xrf_abbs

http://biopaxwiki.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/DatabaseRegistry

http://biopaxwiki.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/UriCvNamespaceProposalJune2006

http://mumble.net/~alanr/cshl/URICV.htm

<andylaw> mscottm - phone is working for me

<brandizi> Hi all...

<mscottm> phone is working for me too now - reboot worked.

<eneumann> Kei, can you send the URL for the pages you are showing? thanks...

<Don> I don't see the URL for Kei's work?

<susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SenselabUsecase2

<Don> Thank you Susie!

<eneumann> thanks Susie

<mscottm> thanks!

<brandizi> yes, it should be the BioRDF call...

http://www.crossref.org/

<mscottm> http://purl.org/ for resources that change location/support

<AndyS> So the challenge for URIs will be what do we want to link across?

alan says: Versioning makes sense for documents, but not for things in the world (which don't have versions)

gene in a certain species in a certain organism at a specific time (they mutate over time)

<brandizi> this PURL thing seems similar to the LSID resoultion service: http://lsid.sourceforge.net/

<andylaw> state of knowledge about a gene at a particular time?

in cancer genes get mutated by transpositions.

also dna damage from uv

much of cancer is driven by "somatic" mutations

not to mention reverse transcription viruses which cause genes to be inserted in the genome

many such phenomena

<andylaw> *my* TGFB1 gene doesn't have a web service interface

<mscottm> I imagine that you could combine PURL and LSID e.g. use PURL for the domain part of an LSID so that your server can move domains without hurting the reference.

yet

there are already database of snps, common transpositions, amplifications and deletions, hot spots, etc.

hapmap

<eneumann> Susie, 15 minutes remain, what do we want to get done by the end?

not sure we will reach conclusion. Perhaps set up working group?

<andylaw> not sure we'll *ever* reach a conclusion! :o}

I'm more optimistic :)

<andylaw> where is the email list and how do I join

which email list hcls?

<AndyS> The key seems to be naming - and then do everything else in the metadata.

<andylaw> Susie mentioned one earlier on?

<mscottm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/

<AndyS> Version is just a query - "get me the thing at time T"

<mscottm> However, I believe that you are supposed to first become a member of the HCLS group if you aren't already

<andylaw> HCLS ? ** Life Science?

health care and life sciences

<AndyS> HealthCare

<andylaw> I guess pigs and chickens qualify in the LS category.

<mscottm> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/ See "http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/#membership

<andylaw> How/where do I join?

<andylaw> Thanks

<AndyS> http://rdfweb.org/topic/Scutter

<jar> ontology = theory? ontolgies don't change, we just get new ontologies (theories) (versions)

<mscottm> ok - then a new version of the ontology or theory.

<eneumann> FWIW, the data v.s concept URI issue is related to the earlier gene synomym problem

<jar> yes

can we get tbl on that call?

<eneumann> I can try, but he usually defers to the TAG group

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