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previous minutes at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006AprJun/0028.html
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to find out where the tests from Martin are (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
francois: Martin did not approve to make them public yet
... I will ping Martin
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
<r12a> ACTION: francois, ping Martin about when we can make the tests public [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu on ws i18n (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
francois: would you have bandwith to update the charmod norm issues list?
richard: currently not
francois: so I'll look at it later this months
<scribe> ACTION: all to look at charmod resid test suite and gather feedback [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
Richard: are there instructions on how the tests should be run?
Francois: they are supposed to be self explaining
felix: there is a bachelor thesis about the tests
ltli latest editor's draft: http://www.w3.org/International/core/langtags/
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006AprJun/0030.html
felix: from Addison, proposes conformance criteria for LTLI
... describes the conformance critera proposed
from Addison
richard: why not using xml:lang for locale?
francois: xml:lang should not be used for locale, is the message
... the word "MUST NOT use" is not very
precise
... it should say e.g. "specifications must not specify that xml:lang specifies locale"
richard: process question: Addison has not agreed to the patent policy?
mary: these are public comments, so is there a problem?
richard: you have to contact the people who make the comments
... we have to get back to plh to make sure
that there is no patent issue here
mary: I don't think that there's a problem
richard: we have to be careful
... let's take the examples to plh and say "these are basic ideas we would
have had anyway" and see if it is an issue
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to check that Addisons comments are o.k. with regard to patent policy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06a]
francois: where are other comments?
in the member list comments from Martin: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0038.html
felix: could you all give me feedback on the document?
francois: sure
<scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on the LTLI draft (editor's copy http://www.w3.org/International/core/langtags/) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06b]
richard: the conformance section should say what you have to do to be conformant, but not have all conformance section
felix: could it be like charmod-resid
... "3 Character Encoding in Resource Identifiers"
... would LTLI
to be structured in the same way?
... do you think that there should be s.t. else in the document than the conformance criteria?
francois: could be structured like charmod-resid
... resid puts the rfc 2119 into sec. 2 "conformance",
that's it
... in the next section, you make the definitions
felix: looks good to me
<scribe> ACTION: felix to make restructuring of the LTLI conformance section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
francois: there was an interesting comments from Mark Davis
felix: I brought one comment back to them: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006AprJun/0034.html
francois: we said "make explicit if a link is to something in another language"
... they said "this has no
mobile specific interpretation", which was an answer to many comments
... we did agree with them in many cases, but not here
... do you
agree to insist on that?
Richard: o.k.
<scribe> new last call WD of MWBP 1.0: http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-mobile-bp-20060412/
felix: if you want to reply to other responses, please send a mail until tomorrow
<fyergeau> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0032.html
felix: do you see an issues with Mark's proposals to update UAX 15?
everybody looking at Marks mail
Francois: Martin's comments are interesting
Felix: should we send them as working group comments?
Francois: let's send them in as working group comments
... send them in as the liasion to Unicode
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to send in the comments from Martin on Mark's UAX 15 revision proposal to Unicode [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/02-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
richard: maybe we will have to do wcag comments soon, I'll check and come back later
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/
felix: I'll update the review radar