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Comment LC-1738

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Commenter: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeW3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 /**/ code { font-... W3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 W3C Working Draft 25 May 2007 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents Appendices 1 Introduction 1.1 Levels of mobileOK 1.1.1 mobileOK Basic 1.1.2 mobileOK Pro 1.1.3 Out of Scope 1.1.4 Beyond mobileOK 1.2 Applicability 1.3 Claiming mobileOK conformance 2 Conformance 2.1 Validity of the Tests 2.2 Testing Outcomes 2.3 Conduct of Tests 2.3.1 Order of Tests 2.3.2 HTTP Request 2.3.3 HTTP Response 2.3.4 Meta http-equiv Elements 2.3.5 CSS Style 2.3.6 Included Resources 2.3.7 Included Style Sheet Resources 2.3.8 Visible Linked Resources 2.3.9 Validity 2.3.10 White Space 3 mobileOK Basic Tests 3.1 AUTO_REFRESH (partial) and REDIRECTION 3.2 CACHING 3.3 CHARACTER_ENCODING_SUPPORT and CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE 3.4 CONTENT_FORMAT_SUPPORT and VALID_MARKUP 3.5 DEFAULT_INPUT_MODE 3.6 EXTERNAL_RESOURCES 3.7 GRAPHICS_FOR_SPACING 3.8 IMAGE_MAPS 3.9 IMAGES_RESIZING and IMAGES_SPECIFY_SIZE 3.10 LINK_TARGET_FORMAT 3.11 MEASURES 3.12 MINIMIZE 3.13 NO_FRAMES 3.14 NON-TEXT_ALTERNATIVES (partial) 3.15 OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT (partial) 3.16 PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT 3.17 PAGE_TITLE (partial) 3.18 POP_UPS 3.19 PROVIDE_DEFAULTS (partial) 3.20 STYLE_SHEETS_SUPPORT (partial) 3.21 STYLE_SHEETS_USE 3.22 TABLES_ALTERNATIVES 3.23 TABLES_LAYOUT (partial) 3.24 TABLES_NESTED A Acknowledgements(Non-Normative) B References(Non-Normative) BestPractices CSS GIF JPEG POWDER RFC2617 Techniques UTF-8 utf8_perl WCAG XHTMLBasic11 XHTMLModularization XML10 XML11 C Relationship between Best Practices and mobileOK Tests(Non-Normative)
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COMMENT A.3:
- ERT WG COMMENT:
Section "3.10 MEASURES" reads: "If the value is non-zero and the unit is
not "em", "ex" or "%", and the property is not a margin, border or
padding box property (see also 3.20 SCROLLING (partial) ), FAIL"
There are other CSS properties where px values may be allowed as the
background-position or the outline-width.
- BPWG RESOLUTION:
We agree with the basic point but we will address it in the next phase
of the Best Practices document instead.
- ERT WG RESPONSE:
We acknowledge the dependency of this test on the wording of the related
BP. However, we think this is an important issue that needs to be
addressed in this document before it reaches Recommendation status. As
currently defined, this test could produce a fail outcome where it
should be a pass. This could also lead to ambiguity amongst different
checker tools.

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WG Notes: The issue seems to just be the inconsistency with original BP document? or omission of background-position from the list? all except outline-width are in CSS1. Not really clear what the issue is... Jo's original note: OK, this is a problem. These properties in question are not CSS Level 1 properties and will trigger a warn. However they will trigger a FAIL on MEASURES. We should probably adjust MEASURES to say that the fail is generated only if the property is a Level 1 property. That is a substantive change, imo.

Resolution: RESOLUTION: Modify measures to state that px measures are tested only CSS level 1 properties. CSS Properties that take a <length> are: font-size, background-position, word-spacing, letter-spacing, text-indent, line-height, width and height (as well as margin, borders and padding). The BPWG did not consider that these other properties justified an exclusion from this test.

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