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A small and simple specification is good, better chance to have the whole language implemented. Opera has a preview of the next gen browser with native Theora and SVG: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/a-call-for-video-on-the-web-opera-vid/ First time I saw this, I was impressed, all that was missing was Vorbis audio and SMIL Timesheets. Timesheets should be able to make fade in and out transitions by animating volume and opacity values on the audio/visual media. With fade transitions, it's possible to make presentations presentable, the other feature could be added later. The important thing is that the W3C provide an option for multimedia content other than the prevailing proprietary ones. SMIL Timesheets, SVG, Theora, Vorbis in a Web browser is a winning combo IMHO :) Jose Ramirez Free your Media 'Xiph it' at xiph.org