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Comment LC-640

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Commenter: Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeIntroduction Related Documents Authoring tools The Role of User Agents The Four Principles of Accessibility Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0 Conformance Technology assumptions and the "baseline" Conformance levels and the baseline Conformance claims Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0 How to refer to WCAG 2.0 from other documents Guideline 1.1 Success Criterion 1.1.1 Guideline 1.2 Success Criterion 1.2.1 Success Criterion 1.2.2 Success Criterion 1.2.3 Success Criterion 1.2.4 Success Criterion 1.2.5 Success Criterion 1.2.6 Success Criterion 1.2.7 Guideline 1.3 Success Criterion 1.3.1 Success Criterion 1.3.2 Success Criterion 1.3.3 Success Criterion 1.3.4 Success Criterion 1.3.5 Guideline 1.4 Success Criterion 1.4.1 Success Criterion 1.4.2 Success Criterion 1.4.3 Success Criterion 1.4.4 Guideline 2.1 Success Criterion 2.1.1 Success Criterion 2.1.2 Guideline 2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.1 Success Criterion 2.2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.3 Success Criterion 2.2.4 Success Criterion 2.2.5 Success Criterion 2.2.6 Guideline 2.3 Success Criterion 2.3.1 Success Criterion 2.3.2 Guideline 2.4 Success Criterion 2.4.1 Success Criterion 2.4.2 Success Criterion 2.4.3 Success Criterion 2.4.4 Success Criterion 2.4.5 Success Criterion 2.4.6 Success Criterion 2.4.7 Success Criterion 2.4.8 Guideline 2.5 Success Criterion 2.5.1 Success Criterion 2.5.2 Success Criterion 2.5.3 Success Criterion 2.5.4 Guideline 3.1 Success Criterion 3.1.1 Success Criterion 3.1.2 Success Criterion 3.1.3 Success Criterion 3.1.4 Success Criterion 3.1.5 Success Criterion 3.1.6 Guideline 3.2 Success Criterion 3.2.1 Success Criterion 3.2.2 Success Criterion 3.2.3 Success Criterion 3.2.4 Success Criterion 3.2.5 Guideline 4.1 Success Criterion 4.1.1 Success Criterion 4.1.2 Guideline 4.2 Success Criterion 4.2.1 Success Criterion 4.2.2 Success Criterion 4.2.3 Success Criterion 4.2.4 Appendix A: Glossary Appendix B: Checklist Appendix C: Acknowledgements Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 Appendix E: References
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

this needs to be at level one because many sites are completely inoperable because of failure

Proposed Change:

move to level 1

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WG Notes: [TEAMB] Discussed in the 08 February 2007 telecon: No resolution. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/02/08-wai-wcag-minutes.html Action: Loretta, John and Makoto to review this. 23 Feb 2007: Investigation of impact/importance of SC JIS has a requirement as the following: <blockquote> 5.5 b) Information required to understand and operate Web content shall not rely on shape and location alone. Information : Visually impaired users cannot detect or understand the content if it relies on shape and location alone. Information provision using shape and location, however, is an effective method for users with cognitive disability or dysmnesia, so use it together with text information. </blockquote> In our discussions, use of location seemed to be more of a common problem than use of shape or color. A Google search for the phrase "button on the right." found "about 1,030,000" results. By contrast, "click the round button" returned only 731 hits, and "select the round button" returned only 170. Examples of hits include: <blockquote> If you need to adjust PDF generation options, click the "Property" button on the right. 6. Click "OK". 7. A dialog will pop up, assign the folder and file ... "Find Institution" button on the right center of the screen if your certification/license record is. from a state within the HLC region. Website Feedback In order to collapse last entry, click on the - button on the right. ... If you want to send more URLs and comments, click on the + button on the right. Click the "adjust and review" button on the right vertical navigational bar (main menu),. select the budget button, select expenditures, select loans. which is now available. listen, just hit the "Play" button on the right side of the page (--->), or use iTunes, or direct download. </blockquote> The following four examples are not problematic if the button has the same label so that the screen reader users can find the button. 1. click the "Property" button on the right 2. "Find Institution" button on the right center of the screen 3. Click the "adjust and review" button on the right vertical navigational bar (main menu) 4. just hit the "Play" button on the right side of the page These examples can be problematic if the button doesn't have the label. The point is that the authors should describe the label of the button in text and the button has tha same label. For a diagram, the authors should name the diagram, for example "Figure 1", and the alt text or the caption text should start with "Figure 1.". It allows the screen readers to understand the information with or without location. Conclusion: When this SC criterion is violated, the impact is serious, but it appears that it is usually satisfied, and should be easy to satisfy without great burden or impact on the visual design of the web page. Discussed in the 01 March 2007 telecon: Accept as amended. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/03/01-wai-wcag-minutes.html {accept} DONE reverse the order of the examples in F14 DONE Move SC 1.3.5 to level 1 XML source updated 2 March 2007.

Resolution: Because assistive technology may not be able to preserve shape, size, visual location, or orientation of components when it transforms content to an alternate presentation, this success criterion has been moved to level A.

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