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Comment LC-573

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Commenter: Dr Philip J Naylor <P.J.Naylor@bristol.ac.uk> on behalf of University of Bristol

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeIntroduction Related Documents Authoring tools The Role of User Agents The Four Principles of Accessibility Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0 Conformance Technology assumptions and the "baseline" Conformance levels and the baseline Conformance claims Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0 How to refer to WCAG 2.0 from other documents Guideline 1.1 Success Criterion 1.1.1 Guideline 1.2 Success Criterion 1.2.1 Success Criterion 1.2.2 Success Criterion 1.2.3 Success Criterion 1.2.4 Success Criterion 1.2.5 Success Criterion 1.2.6 Success Criterion 1.2.7 Guideline 1.3 Success Criterion 1.3.1 Success Criterion 1.3.2 Success Criterion 1.3.3 Success Criterion 1.3.4 Success Criterion 1.3.5 Guideline 1.4 Success Criterion 1.4.1 Success Criterion 1.4.2 Success Criterion 1.4.3 Success Criterion 1.4.4 Guideline 2.1 Success Criterion 2.1.1 Success Criterion 2.1.2 Guideline 2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.1 Success Criterion 2.2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.3 Success Criterion 2.2.4 Success Criterion 2.2.5 Success Criterion 2.2.6 Guideline 2.3 Success Criterion 2.3.1 Success Criterion 2.3.2 Guideline 2.4 Success Criterion 2.4.1 Success Criterion 2.4.2 Success Criterion 2.4.3 Success Criterion 2.4.4 Success Criterion 2.4.5 Success Criterion 2.4.6 Success Criterion 2.4.7 Success Criterion 2.4.8 Guideline 2.5 Success Criterion 2.5.1 Success Criterion 2.5.2 Success Criterion 2.5.3 Success Criterion 2.5.4 Guideline 3.1 Success Criterion 3.1.1 Success Criterion 3.1.2 Success Criterion 3.1.3 Success Criterion 3.1.4 Success Criterion 3.1.5 Success Criterion 3.1.6 Guideline 3.2 Success Criterion 3.2.1 Success Criterion 3.2.2 Success Criterion 3.2.3 Success Criterion 3.2.4 Success Criterion 3.2.5 Guideline 4.1 Success Criterion 4.1.1 Success Criterion 4.1.2 Guideline 4.2 Success Criterion 4.2.1 Success Criterion 4.2.2 Success Criterion 4.2.3 Success Criterion 4.2.4 Appendix A: Glossary Appendix B: Checklist Appendix C: Acknowledgements Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 Appendix E: References
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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Even after reading the \"Understanding...\" document, the difference between SCs 2.4.8 and 2.4.4 is very subtle and needs to be a lot clearer.
N.B. any link where the link text alone indicates its purpose will already meet SC 2.4.4.

Proposed Change:

Reword, along the lines of:
2.4.8 The purpose of each link can be programmatically determined from extra information related to the link.

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WG Notes: [TEAMB] Discussed in the 31 August 2006 telecon: resolution: sent back to Team B to consider survey comments. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/08/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html Discussed in the 07 September 2006 telecon: sent back to Team to consider comments http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/09/07-wai-wcag-minutes.html Discussed in the 14 September 2006 telecon: Resolution: refer link text issues back to team B with the understanding that Ben's format will be used for the definition and the 2.4.8 supplemental language gets worked out and Loretta and David work out the link focus issue for 2.4.4. Accept the rest of the resolution as proposed pending resolution of the previously stated items. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/09/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html Discussed in the 28 September 2006 telecon: Resolution:Send "SC 2.4.4 and How to Meet Success Criterion 2.4.4" back to Team B for further work. Action item taken by David to clean up failures and add more examples. Action item by Team B: take survey comments and update Wiki pages to update survey comments, take sufficient techniques and make them general as opposed to specific HTML techniques. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/09/28-wai-wcag-minutes.html Discussed in the 05 October 2006 telecon: Resolution: accept proposal as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/10/05-wai-wcag-minutes.html {accept} SEE ACTIONS FOR LC-497 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007May/0160.html

Resolution: We have reworded both SC 2.4.8 and SC 2.4.4 to clarify the differences. They now read: 2.4.4 The purpose of each link can be determined from the link text and its programmatically determined link context. 2.4.8 The purpose of each link can be identified from the link text. where "Programmatically determined link context" is defined as: 1. Additional information that can be programmatically determined from relationships with a link; and 2.can be extracted, combined with the link text, and presented to users in different modalities. Example 1: Screen readers provide commands to read the current sentence when focus is on a link. Example 2: Examples of information that can be extracted, combined with link text, and presented to users in different modalities include text that is in the same sentence, paragraph, list, or table cell as the link or in a table header cell that is associated with the table cell that contains the link.

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