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Comment LC-1057

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Commenter: Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeIntroduction Related Documents Authoring tools The Role of User Agents The Four Principles of Accessibility Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0 Conformance Technology assumptions and the "baseline" Conformance levels and the baseline Conformance claims Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0 How to refer to WCAG 2.0 from other documents Guideline 1.1 Success Criterion 1.1.1 Guideline 1.2 Success Criterion 1.2.1 Success Criterion 1.2.2 Success Criterion 1.2.3 Success Criterion 1.2.4 Success Criterion 1.2.5 Success Criterion 1.2.6 Success Criterion 1.2.7 Guideline 1.3 Success Criterion 1.3.1 Success Criterion 1.3.2 Success Criterion 1.3.3 Success Criterion 1.3.4 Success Criterion 1.3.5 Guideline 1.4 Success Criterion 1.4.1 Success Criterion 1.4.2 Success Criterion 1.4.3 Success Criterion 1.4.4 Guideline 2.1 Success Criterion 2.1.1 Success Criterion 2.1.2 Guideline 2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.1 Success Criterion 2.2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.3 Success Criterion 2.2.4 Success Criterion 2.2.5 Success Criterion 2.2.6 Guideline 2.3 Success Criterion 2.3.1 Success Criterion 2.3.2 Guideline 2.4 Success Criterion 2.4.1 Success Criterion 2.4.2 Success Criterion 2.4.3 Success Criterion 2.4.4 Success Criterion 2.4.5 Success Criterion 2.4.6 Success Criterion 2.4.7 Success Criterion 2.4.8 Guideline 2.5 Success Criterion 2.5.1 Success Criterion 2.5.2 Success Criterion 2.5.3 Success Criterion 2.5.4 Guideline 3.1 Success Criterion 3.1.1 Success Criterion 3.1.2 Success Criterion 3.1.3 Success Criterion 3.1.4 Success Criterion 3.1.5 Success Criterion 3.1.6 Guideline 3.2 Success Criterion 3.2.1 Success Criterion 3.2.2 Success Criterion 3.2.3 Success Criterion 3.2.4 Success Criterion 3.2.5 Guideline 4.1 Success Criterion 4.1.1 Success Criterion 4.1.2 Guideline 4.2 Success Criterion 4.2.1 Success Criterion 4.2.2 Success Criterion 4.2.3 Success Criterion 4.2.4 Appendix A: Glossary Appendix B: Checklist Appendix C: Acknowledgements Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 Appendix E: References
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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Comment:

2.5: There should be a Level 1 SC which requires error prevention techniques, such as providing instructions at the beginning of a form

Proposed Change:

Create a new SC. I am happy to help with this

Related issues: 568 1294
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WG Notes: [TEAMC] Requiring instructions on forms is a design change to the visual layout of Web content which doesn't meet our criteria for Level 1. Alternative 1: We could add a Level 2 SC but it would have to be general, something like "A mechanism is provided to help users prevent making errors." We tried in vain to create more specific success criteria. Remember all the discussions about our choice of 75 in this 2.5 Level 3 Success Criteria from 2004: "Where text entry is required for which there is a known set of less than 75 valid choices and they can be provided without jeopardizing security or purpose, users are allowed to select from a list of options as well as to type the data directly." Sufficient techniques in support of this SC could be: - Providing instructions at the beginning of forms - Providing a list of selectable choices - Providing examples of expected format I still think this might be too much to require at Level 2. What if the form is really simple? So we could add a Level 3 success criteria but I don't think that would satisfy Gian. It does seem kind of odd that we have a guideline that says "Help users avoid mistakes... " yet we have nothing at level 1 or 2 to meet it. Alternative 2: Maybe we should instead propose rewriting this guideline to "Make it easy for users to correct mistakes." Discussed in the 14 September 2006 telecon: resolution: Return 1057 to team C. Put the results of the survey into the issue; draft a proposal based on the survey results; also tag the issue as "cognitive" and put on hold. Survey Comments: http://tinyurl.com/ynzgn7 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/09/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html 17 Jan 2007: Looks like it should be handled in same way as 1294. Moving back to Team C. Discussed in the 08 February 2007 telecon: Accepted by unanimous consent. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/02/08-wai-wcag-minutes.html Discussed in the 4/26 2007 telecon: update based on http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070426simplify3/results#xissues5 Discussed in the 03 May 2007 telecon: resolution: accept 1057 avoiding errors as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/03-wai-wcag-minutes.html {partial-accept} Issue resolved by creating SC to avoid errors accepted 18 Jan 2007 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/01/18-wai-wcag-minutes#item01> Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jul/0116.html New issue: http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=2342

Resolution: In addition to success criteria 2.5.3 and 2.5.4 in the April 2006 draft, we have created two new success criteria intended to help users avoid errors: 1. A Level AA success criterion "Labels or instructions are provided when content requires user input". 2. A Level AAA success criterion that is similar to the level AA (was 2.5.3) success criterion except there are no exceptions. "For forms that require the user to submit information, at least one of the following is true: 1. Reversible: Transactions are reversible. 2. Checked: Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process. 3. Confirmed: A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction."

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