W3C

i18n core working group

31 Jan 2006

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Felix, Francois, Karunesh, Mary, Richard
Regrets
Chair
Francois
Scribe
Felix

Contents


summary of rfc 3066 bis

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Jan/0041.html

Felix conclusion: we can continue to refer to rfc 3066 or its successor

Francois: it would be good to have an FAQ on this

Richard: I have asked Addison to write an FAQ

Francois: For the moment we tell spec writers to point to RFC 3066 and its successor

Mapping of XML names into programming languages

Francois: explains the issue, described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0126.html
... it is a general thing of escaping characters
... we want to tell them to use escaping as in XML or Java
... not in URL where the bytes are escaped
... so "use the 'hex' code for each character that you cannot have", and that's it

Comments on charmod norm

Francois: Did not have time to look at this

Felix: Did not have time to look in this, should do it before the tech plenary, to be able to talk to the XML / XSL / XQuery / XML Schema folks

<scribe> ACTION: francois / all to go through charmod norm comments of QT people etc. (ONGOING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]

Replies to comments on CSS selectors

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0133.html

comment 1 on CSS

felix: let's give this up

francois: spec's are not tutorials

comment 2 on CSS

francois: In that case it is a source of confusion
... all it requires saying "this is not the type as in XML Schema"

felix: let's try again

comment 3 on CSS

francois: you see various usages of selectors (css, w3c selectors)
... they need to clarify this

felix: go back to them to clarify their usage with a consistent terminology

comment 5 on CSS

Francois: o.k. with that

comment 6 on CSS

Francois: a problem with definition of conformance
... we should push back on them to define conformance with respect to the binding mechanism
... we don't have to insist of prescribing it

comment 8 on CSS

comment 11 on CSS

http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-css3-selectors-20051215/#pseudo-classes

<fyergeau> http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-css3-selectors-20051215/#attribute-substrings

francois: drop this

comment 12

felix: o.k.

comment 15

Richard: they seem to be afraid of matching problems
... they are saying how they define the matching is done
... not rfc 3066bis or something else

Francois: it was poorly worded in the spec
... we should ask Addison or Mark or both what they think about this

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to ask Addison and Mark about language tags in css selectors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]

<fyergeau> comment 16

<fyergeau> we need to insist

<fyergeau> on case-insensitve

comment 17

accepted

comment 20

francois: need to wait for answer or asked again

comment 23

francois: we should keep that open, until they clarify the relation between css and selectors (see comment 3)
... what they do for 3 will make it clear

CDF review

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0133.html

comment cdr-2

francois: drop this

comment cdr-5

francois: I still disagree
... I have a scenario with an XHTML document which contains an SVG image
... if I make it external, the language information does not apply anymore
... my concern is: what should happen if there is no other information?
... that is, no "authoritative metadata"

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to give back i18n core WG feedback to CSS and CDF WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]

action items

<scribe> ACTION: felix to summarize RFC 3066bis and to contact AP and Mark (ONGOING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: felix to ask addison for preparations for meetings with ws folks at tech plenary (ONGOING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to contact Moataz about HP replacement and TP (ONGOING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Felix to ask Addison and Mark about language tags in css selectors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to give back our feedback to CSS and CDF WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
 
[ONGOING] ACTION: felix to ask addison for preparations for meetings with ws folks at tech plenary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
[ONGOING] ACTION: Felix to contact Moataz about HP replacement and TP [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
[ONGOIN] ACTION: felix to summarize RFC 3066bis and to contact AP and Mark [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: francois / all to go through charmod norm comments of QT people etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
 
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