W3C

i18n core working group

10 Jan 2006

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Attendees

Present
Felix, Francois, Mary, Richard
Regrets
Chair
Francois
Scribe
Felix

Contents


call last week

francois: we talked about agenda items

upcoming reviews

francois: we have the reviews on http://www.w3.org/International/core/reviews
... and the unicode bidi stuff

felix: I will pick up selectors

francois: a potential issue can be language

<r12a> specifically :lang

francois: and s.t. else about language specific select
... there is an operator which is meant to pick up a subset defining language items

<scribe> ACTION: felix to review css selectors until tomorrow, wait for feedback from the wg, sent the comments on monday next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

francois: WICD

"Web Integration Compound Document"

<scribe> ACTION: felix to review the WICD specs before next teleconf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<r12a> also in selectors: "[att|=val]

<r12a> Represents an element with the att attribute, its value either being exactly "val" or beginning with "val" immediately followed by "-" (U+002D). This is primarily intended to allow language subcode matches (e.g., the hreflang attribute on the link element in HTML) as described in RFC 3066 ([RFC3066]). For lang (or xml:lang) language subcode matching, please see the :lang pseudo-class.

ri: one should have a look for inheritance difference. there is inheritance in :lang, but not in the stuff I just pasted in.

<r12a> felix, this may be helpful: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-lang#inheritance

thanks!

<scribe> ACTION: felix to ask Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group about what http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-mobile-bp-20051017/ will be (note? rec-track?) and about timing for comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

francois: in addition, Unicode review issue, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Jan/0004.html

<scribe> ACTION: francois to review The proposal is to eliminate overriding of bidi mirroring [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<r12a> for francois: http://www.w3.org/Math/Group/Notes/draft-notes/arabic.xhtml#MirroringProposal

<r12a> you'll need to read elsewhere in the document for the actual examples though, francois

charmod norm new comment(s)

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2005Dec/0003.html

felix: from Jim Melton
... we have to go through these comments at some point

ri: we have to go through the old last call comments and see if there are dublicates in this

<scribe> ACTION: francois to go through http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2005Dec/0003.html and old last call comments and look for dublicates, felix to ask Jim Melton about the relation between the old and the new comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

f2f at technical plenary

francois: I will be at the tech plenary

Mary: me too

felix: me too
... Moataz will give us a replacement from HP, I will check details about the HP participation

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to contact Moataz about HP replacement and technical plenary participation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action06]

ri: Kirian Snyder is now more in a kind of management role

mary: she is very knowledgeable

ri: as for the agenda for technical plenary, charmod-norm would be a good canidate
... how about meeting ITS

felix: I am not sure if ITS will have a f2f

francois: I will draw an agenda for the f2f
... group meetings are also related to reviews

felix: how about meeting CSS for vertical text, and ws folks for ws-i18n?

<scribe> ACTION: felix to ask addison for preparations for meetings with ws folks [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action07]

<fyergeau> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/

ri: http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0512-arabic-mathml/ is not a note yet
... we should have a link to the http://www.w3.org/Math/Group/Notes/draft-notes/arabic.xhtml (not public page)
... the page should be ordered by title

francois: how about review order in time?

ri: it is difficult if we have several reviews
... the problem is that they just override the document, without changing the date

can you see this: http://cvs.w3.org/Team/~checkout~/WWW/Math/Group/Notes/draft-notes/arabic.xhtml?rev=1.31&content-type=text/html

ri: we could ask the mathml folks to create a version which we could point to

<scribe> ACTION: ri to contact the math ml people about having a version of the math ml note which we can point to [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: felix to fix review history page (mathml link, alphabetic order) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action09]

ws-i18n

mary: Sorry, not prepared this week

<scribe> ACTION: all to continue ws-i18n next week? [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action10]

other business?

no

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: all to continue ws-i18n next week? [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to ask addison for preparations for meetings with ws folks [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to ask Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group about what http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-mobile-bp-20051017/ will be (note? rec-track?) and about timing for comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to contact Moataz about HP replacement and technical plenary participation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to fix review history page (mathml link, alphabetic order) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to review css selectors until tomorrow, wait for feedback from the wg, sent the comments on monday next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to review the WICD specs before next teleconf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: francois to go through http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2005Dec/0003.html and old last call comments and look for dublicates, felix to ask Jim Melton about the relation between the old and the new comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: francois to review The proposal is to eliminate overriding of bidi mirroring [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: ri to contact the math ml people about having a version of the math ml note which we can point to [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/10-i18n-minutes.html#action08]
 
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