ISSUE-234: PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT Should Objects Tasted count towards the overall page weight

Object Tasting

PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT Should Objects Tasted count towards the overall page weight

State:
CLOSED
Product:
mobileOK Basic tests
Raised by:
Jo Rabin
Opened on:
2008-01-18
Description:
I am concerned that while we add the size of redirections to the total page weights we ignore the size of nested objects. Dom says that it's only a HEAD that is done to taste the content. I am guessing wildly that this is not in practice so. I think we need better justification for excluding what might be enormous content transferred to the browser, merely to be discarded. i.e. I think we need empirical evidence that browsers actually do taste Objects in the "Dom" way.

(Aside from the coach and horses Dom has already run through OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT that is)

Jo
Related Actions Items:
Related emails:
  1. mobileOK Basic - Wrong definition of included resources for CONTENT_FORMAT_SUPPORT (from fd@w3.org on 2008-05-21)
  2. RE: ISSUE-231 [again]: MINIMIZE and whitespace in CSS (from jrabin@mtld.mobi on 2008-04-25)
  3. ISSUE-231 [again]: MINIMIZE and whitespace in CSS (from fd@w3.org on 2008-04-25)
  4. [minutes] Thursday 17 April 2008 Teleconf (from fd@w3.org on 2008-04-17)
  5. RE: mobileOK basic issues (from miguel.garcia@fundacionctic.org on 2008-04-17)
  6. RE: mobileOK basic issues (from jrabin@mtld.mobi on 2008-04-16)
  7. RE: mobileOK basic issues (from k.scheppe@telekom.de on 2008-04-16)
  8. Re: mobileOK basic issues (from srowen@google.com on 2008-04-15)
  9. mobileOK basic issues (from dom@w3.org on 2008-04-14)
  10. RE: Pendings bugs fixed (from miguel.garcia@fundacionctic.org on 2008-04-11)
  11. Re: Pendings bugs fixed (from dom@w3.org on 2008-04-11)
  12. [minutes] Seoul F2F Day 2 - Tuesday 4 March 2008 (from fd@w3.org on 2008-03-04)
  13. RE: Testing Object loading behavior (from jrabin@mtld.mobi on 2008-01-31)
  14. Testing Object loading behavior (from dom@w3.org on 2008-01-28)
  15. [minutes] Thursday 23 January Teleconf (from fd@w3.org on 2008-01-24)
  16. Re: ISSUE-234 (Object Tasting): PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT Should Objects Tasted count towards the overall page weight [mobileOK Basic tests] (from dom@w3.org on 2008-01-18)
  17. ISSUE-234 (Object Tasting): PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT Should Objects Tasted count towards the overall page weight [mobileOK Basic tests] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2008-01-18)

Related notes:

The end results seem to indicate that when the type attribute is set, most browsers won't attempt to download content they know they can't handle, and most will try to download when the type attribute is not set.

So, when the type attribute is not set, we should probably count the size of the object. But whether that's worth putting in mobileOK Basic 1.0 (vs 1.1) is probably worth more discussion.

Dominique Hazaël-Massieux, 28 Mar 2008, 09:59:22

We agreed on adding Object tasting to the overall weight:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-mobileOK-basic10-tests-20080610/

Dominique Hazaël-Massieux, 11 Jun 2008, 19:38:56

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