W3C

i18n ITS working group

23 Nov 2005

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Andrzej, Christian, Diane, Felix, Goutam, Richard, Sebastian, Yves
Regrets
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix

Contents


action items

<scribe> ACTION: Christian to write a mail about the new format from Microsoft (done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action001]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to make transition request for its tagset (done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to prepare an example of the format he is responsible for. (pending) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to make transition request for its tagset (done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to prepare bugzilla for issue tracking for the ITS working group (done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2005OctDec/0149.html

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=ITS

<YvesS> FS describes how Bugzilla works

felix: I would use bugzilla for tracking, not text production

yves: me too

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to prepare the requirements document for new publication until tomorrow (done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to take other the action item from Richard on how to handle feedback from non-working group members(done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

<YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2005OctDec/0136.html

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to create a list of the attendee for the f2f (ongoing) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action06]

Yves: Christian, Richard, Sebastian, Yves, Andrzej, Felix will participate

<YvesS> no all are there.

<scribe> ACTION: richard and felix to talk about patent policy during the ac meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to send a new draft for the agenda of the f2f(done) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action08]

<YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2005OctDec/0150.html

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to finalize the f2f agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action09]

Status of the various modularization of ITS

Yves: has somebody worked on that?

Christian: no

Felix: no

Sebastian: have started, running into the namespace problem
... during the f2f I will have thought that out, hopefully
... if you look at the its tagset wd, it looks like a standalone schema
... but it describes no mechanism for the integration into a different schema

Yves: has somebody had similar problems?
... Damian will tackle open document

Christian: talks about DITA integration

Yves: the question is how would you modify a schema to have ITS in it?
... maybe we should reword the section on modularization

Andrjez: I heard that "translate" in DITA will be deprecated. I would like to help Christian with the DITA stuff
... ( talks about DITA and ITS)

Christian: Could you summarize that info you have about DITA and create an action plan for you and me?

<scribe> ACTION: Andrjez and Christian to follow up on the contact to DITA, and see how ITS fits into DITA [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action10]

Andrjez Diane, are you taking an active part in the DITA TC

Diane no, I have not been envolved in DITA

Yves: I sent mails to various working groups about the wd

<Andrjez> Looks like my connection has gone again

Christian: Are there other groups which should be covered? E.g. XLIFF?

Yves: How about OASIS as a whole, because they have various XML formats?

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to contact OASIS to get feedback on ITS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action11]

Sebastian: How about DocBook people? I sent a mail to Norm about ITS
... Robin Cover will pick ITS up, hopefully

Yves: How about open source community? Damian will tackle open doc

Christian: Do we have presentation material that describes the WD?

Felix: so far there are no presentations on ITS

Christian: I would like to get feedback on ITS from colleagues

Sebastian: I would like to have a directory to put test files

<scribe> ACTION: felix to create a directory for ITS test files (e.g. its/testfiles) for now one account for Sebastian [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action12]

Data category discussion

Yves: can we solve that issue maybe here?

Felix: I was just wondering what Christian ment about data categories during his comments on the tagset wd

Christian: I'm happy with the working draft now as it is. Maybe a paragraph in the spec

<scribe> ACTION: Christian and Felix to create a paragraph on the data categories and the relation to realizations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action13]

Felix: if everybody is fine with that, we could drop the topic of data categories from the f2f agenda

techniques document

<scribe> ACTION: Richard will give Diane and me a template for the techniques document until the end of the week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action14]

Yves: I start to work on the doc as soon as I get the template
... is there a specific order which people want to see?

<scribe> ACTION: all to refresh their knowledge about the requirements document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action15]

definition of internationalization / localization

Yves: Richard, do you have any input on that?

Richard: I am working on a definition as a whole. I am integrating comments from Addison. I am planning to talk to the GEO group today. I hope to publish this very soon.

<r12a> http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoDefinition

Richard: Please send comments to me until the end of this week

<scribe> ACTION: everybody to look at the i18n / l10n definitions. give comments until the end of the week(if you have *real* concerns) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action16]

f2f

Yves: everybody fine?

Felix: another topic: time scheduling for the next wd

next meeting

next week, same time

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: all to refresh their knowledge about the requirements document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: Andrjez and Christian to follow up on the contact to DITA, and see how ITS fits into DITA [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Christian and Felix to create a paragraph on the data categories and the relation to realizations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to look at the i18n / l10n definitions. give comments until the end of the week(if you have *real* concerns) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action16]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to create a directory for ITS test files (e.g. its/testfiles) for now one account for Sebastian [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: richard and felix to talk about patent policy during the ac meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard will give Diane and me a template for the techniques document until the end of the week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to contact OASIS to get feedback on ITS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to finalize the f2f agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action09]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to prepare an example of the format he is responsible for. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to create a list of the attendee for the f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action06]  
[DONE] Christian to write a mail about the new format from Microsoft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action001]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to make transition request for its tagset [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to prepare bugzilla for issue tracking for the ITS working group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to prepare the requirements document for new publication until tomorrow [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to take other the action item from Richard on how to handle feedback from non-working group members [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to send a new draft for the agenda of the f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/23-i18n-minutes.html#action08]
 
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