Reviewing: Guide to Guideline 1.1 Level 1 Success Criterion 1

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Reviewing: Guide to Guideline 1.1 Level 1 Success Criterion 2: http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.1_L1_SC2

Why 'non-explicit'? Text alternatives can be provided in the body of the object element.

Definition of 'non-text content' needs work (no definitions by means of lists).

Do we need to say anything about what constitutes an acceptable alt text? "provides the same function or identifies the purpose of the function" should be clear enough (?).

Reviewing: Guide to Guideline 1.1 Level 1 Success Criterion 3: http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.1_L1_SC3

proposed definition of 'specific sensory experience' needs work (or drop it?)

don't need to define 'sensory'

specific sensory experience: sensory experience that does not primarily convey important information or perform a function

3rd part of definition of non-text content can be modified based on definition of 'specific sensory experience'

If 3rd part of definition of non-text content is modified, there's no need for a definition of 'specific sensory experience'

Copyright issues when providing lyrics? Providing captions is legal because of disability legislation.

Differences between playing, streaming and downloading

Sites that sell music for downloading: would they need to provide lyrics?

If a site streams music, it should be accessible; downloading binaries is a different case.

If it can be play through a browser plugin, it's webcontent, so it needs to be accessible.

Electronic books that can be read online need to be accessible; if they are downloaded and read locally, WCAG does not apply.

Make a distinction between application and content?

Change level of this SC?

If "at least identifying the non-text content with a descriptive label" is sufficient, the SC should be OK.

In some songs, the words are more important than the music, so they convey information.

GL 1.1 L1 SC1 - add note on multimedia

Discussing on list on where to put alt text

Reviewing: Guide to Guideline 1.1 Level 1 Success Criterion 4 - http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.1_L1_SC4

Take issue 1703 to the group

Resolution: issue 1703 in survey for group

For objects/applets: no technique for marking them as ignorable: does 4.2 L1 SC1 kick in?

Reviewing: Guide to Guideline 1.1 Level 1 Success Criterion 5 - http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.1_L1_SC5
... Guide to Guideline 1.1 Level 3 Success Criterion 1 - http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.1_L3_SC1

Discussing: GL 2.2 L2 SC2

Concern: why no exception for real-time events?

What happens when you pause and restart?

If it is real-time: when you restart, it should go back to real time.

This SC is not for people who pause something to go to the bathroom but for people have difficulty with moving objects

2.2 L1 SC1 - edit "given at least 20 seconds to respond to the invitation ..." - take to the group

Comment by Norman B. Robinson is more restrictive than what we have (but perhaps was not meant to be)

If/when we have a number of server-side techniques, we can collect them into a document.

GL 2.2 L3 SC3 can only have server-side techniques, because of sessions and re-authentication.

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