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Karunesh introduces himself
<YvesS> please call again karunesh.
<scribe> ACTION: richard to contact person from w3c about feedback from non-wg members (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: felix to contact person from atom (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
(Karunseh introduces himself)
<r12a> already done felix
<scribe> ACTION: tim to work on span like req (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<YvesS> http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0503ReqSpan
tim: quite a lot of relations to other requirements
... if you have time, look if that is appropriate
... idea of having a button what has some translatability characteristics
... just a possible example
<r12a> felix, W3C IRC Web Client : http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
<r12a> IRC channel : #i18n on irc.w3.org:6665
Yves: any other comments?
tim: fixed the notation problem and responded to felix' commments
Yves: we can include that into wd soon
<scribe> ACTION: Yves and felix to work on the wd [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
yves: we not to talk about some things in the wd
... in the abstract: should we talk about i18n?
ri: agrees.
yves: how about "that meets the needs of the localization community and internationalization"?
tim: it's not just for localizers, also content authors etc.
<r12a> t is important to include constructs that meet the needs of content authors dealing with international audiences and localization...
ri: just pasted a phrase
yves: all are happy with RI's suggestion
... another question: namespace of its
... do we need to
define now a namespace uri?
... ri, do you think a uri is relevant now?
ri: now
... if we refer to it in the document, we have to be careful
... we need to talk about this in
a longer period of time
yves: we discussed that as we talked about prefixes
... in the example it would be consistent to show
nothing (?)
... have a paragraph at the beginning of the wd which says that the namespace uri and prefix is not stable?
... will create
such a paragraph
... another concern from felix: how about versions?
... now it is its req 1.0
... what will happen if the wd becomes
a note?
ri: versioning might be complicated
... mih
... might be better not to say "1.0" at all
yves: will remove version number
... another question from felix:
... handling of entities reqs
http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/#entities
scribe: link was broken
<YvesS> XML applications (i.e. a combination of DTD/XSD, style-sheets, XML
<YvesS> instances) often make use of so-called general entities, see XML Physical Structure ([XML], section 4). Various usages of general entities exist [I don't know an appropriate link, but maybe we don't need a link here, because this is an informative statement.]
scribe: I just pasted the paragraph felix proposed as a new version without a link
... have not found the
article cl used
ri: to be able to publish, we have to point to links that work
... with links which not work, you cannot
publish
<scribe> ACTION: cl to find the article [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
<tfoster> Just found the link (sort of) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tech.irt.org/articles/js212/#intro
yves: need to delete the link until cl finds it again
... found another issue, in the entity section
... example of entities that has been changed
... just looking for the number of the example
... try to fix the passage
example with a product name?
yves: try to comment with something different
<tfoster> example number 3 in section 3.5.1 I think
yves: any other concern about the document?
felix: no
yves: should we try to have a vote next week?
ri: yes. we should have a link from the hp.
yves: do we need a member directory?
ri: no, you just need the attribute role="editor-copy"
the stylesheet does that for you
<r12a> editors-copy
<scribe> ACTION: felix to do further corrections on the document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action06]
ri: there should not be a date on the document
... we should change that right away
yves: we will change that right away
<r12a> for the date, just put dd mmm 2005
<YvesS> http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0504ReqPurposeSpecMap
yves: this is quite close to wd
... last modification cl made was about comments from felix
... asked
cl to have a summary at the top
tim: a question
... will the list of items that can be mapped be extensible?
... the purpose of this
req is to allow to translate xml schemas
... e.g. code is the same as programlisting (cf. xhtml versus docbook)
yves: we would have some kind of its correspondends
... other people could specify other items to be
mapped
tim: o.k., then I agree with the current text
<scribe> ACTION: all to sent ideas for the agenda within two weeks [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-i18n-minutes.html#action07]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200509-Sophia.html
other business?
next week, same time
Karunesh: this time is ok