IRC log of wstf on 2005-02-07
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- 22:03:11 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #wstf
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- is logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/02/07-wstf-irc
- 22:03:18 [shawn]
- zakim, this will be wstf
- 22:03:18 [Zakim]
- ok, shawn; I see WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM scheduled to start in 57 minutes
- 22:03:25 [shawn]
- zakim, ping me in 45
- 22:03:25 [Zakim]
- ok, shawn
- 22:03:35 [shawn]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 22:03:54 [shawn]
- meeting: WSTF of EOWG
- 22:03:57 [shawn]
- chair: Shawn
- 22:48:26 [Zakim]
- shawn, you asked to be pinged at this time
- 22:48:38 [shawn]
- zakim, ping me in 10
- 22:48:38 [Zakim]
- ok, shawn
- 22:58:39 [Zakim]
- shawn, you asked to be pinged at this time
- 22:59:09 [Justin]
- Justin has joined #wstf
- 22:59:53 [Justin]
- hey shawn
- 23:00:46 [shawn]
- hiya
- 23:01:06 [Zakim]
- WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM has now started
- 23:01:12 [Zakim]
- +Blossom
- 23:01:15 [Zakim]
- -Blossom
- 23:01:16 [Zakim]
- WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM has ended
- 23:01:18 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Blossom
- 23:01:47 [Justin]
- will be on a in sec
- 23:02:23 [Justin]
- wow, that was bad grammar
- 23:03:08 [shawn]
- zakim, drop shawn
- 23:03:08 [Zakim]
- sorry, shawn, I don't know what conference this is
- 23:03:16 [shawn]
- zakim, this will be wstf
- 23:03:16 [Zakim]
- ok, shawn, I see WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM already started
- 23:03:23 [shawn]
- zakim, this is wstf
- 23:03:23 [Zakim]
- shawn, this was already WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM
- 23:03:24 [Zakim]
- ok, shawn; that matches WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM
- 23:03:51 [Zakim]
- +Shawn
- 23:04:10 [shawn]
- zakim, who is there?
- 23:04:10 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, shawn.
- 23:04:16 [shawn]
- zakim, who's here?
- 23:04:16 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see ??P0, Blossom, Shawn
- 23:04:17 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Justin, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn
- 23:04:27 [shawn]
- zakim, ??p0 is Blossom
- 23:04:27 [Zakim]
- +Blossom; got it
- 23:04:30 [Zakim]
- +??P2
- 23:05:04 [Justin]
- zakim, ??p2 is Justin
- 23:05:04 [Zakim]
- +Justin; got it
- 23:15:35 [shawn]
- agreement: break Translations and Related Pages into 2 h2s
- 23:15:51 [shawn]
- 1. see how translations fit in
- 23:15:51 [shawn]
- - http://w3.org/2004/09/wai-nav/intro/accessibility.php#related
- 23:15:51 [shawn]
- - http://w3.org/2004/09/wai-nav/References/QuickTips/Overview.php#related
- 23:15:51 [shawn]
- - decouple with related pages?
- 23:15:51 [shawn]
- 2. revisit location of related pages
- 23:15:52 [shawn]
- - separate section under page contents ? (e.g.,
- 23:15:54 [shawn]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/components) pro: if landed on wrong page
- 23:18:33 [Zakim]
- +Michael_Lenz
- 23:21:25 [mlenz]
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- 23:30:57 [shawn]
- option: related links up under page contents
- 23:31:20 [mlenz]
- pro - related items are called out when present
- 23:31:31 [Justin]
- con - Will clutter up the top of the page. Will increase the cognitive load
- 23:31:53 [mlenz]
- pro - related items are available without scrolling
- 23:32:11 [mlenz]
- pro - center column is focused on core content
- 23:33:57 [Justin]
- question: How many times will the related documents be in or outside of that level of the IA that you are currently on?
- 23:34:01 [shawn]
- option: related links at the bottom (with in page link at top)
- 23:34:26 [Justin]
- pro - simplifies the info above the fold
- 23:35:06 [Justin]
- con - if the related page is useful, its good to have at the top because it show where they want to be
- 23:35:46 [mlenz]
- related items - possible rule set would restrict contents to pages that our outside the concept
- 23:37:13 [shawn]
- 3. discuss navigation interaction
- 23:37:13 [shawn]
- - current page clickable, to parent?
- 23:39:59 [Justin]
- would not be what I expected. It would catch me off guard
- 23:45:08 [shawn]
- 4. W3C Search issues
- 23:45:08 [shawn]
- - set aside from others?
- 23:45:08 [shawn]
- - other temp solution issues?
- 23:57:50 [shawn]
- 5. changes in short names
- 23:57:50 [shawn]
- - How People Use the Web > How People with Disabilities Use the Web
- 23:57:50 [shawn]
- - Quick Tips to Make Accessible > Quick Tips to Make Accessible Sites
- 23:57:50 [shawn]
- - WAI Groups > WAI Working Groups???
- 23:57:50 [shawn]
- - About the WAI Site > ???
- 23:57:51 [shawn]
- (see unrevised drafts: http://www.w3.org/WAI/about/site.html, http://www.w3.org/WAI/about/usingsite.html)
- 23:57:53 [shawn]
- - Interdependent Components > ???
- 23:59:48 [shawn]
- long name: WAI Working Groups and Interest Groups