IRC log of rdfcore on 2003-06-13

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13:56:46 [RRSAgent]

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13:56:53 [em]

but if we dont have a sufficient set of people, not much more we can do

13:58:06 [Zakim]

SW_RDFCore()10:00AM has now started

13:58:13 [Zakim]

+PatH

14:00:40 [em]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:00:40 [Zakim]

On the phone I see PatH

14:00:43 [Zakim]

+Danbri

14:00:50 [em]

zakim, dial emiller-bos

14:00:50 [Zakim]

ok, em; the call is being made

14:00:51 [Zakim]

+Emiller

14:01:29 [Zakim]

+??P10

14:01:42 [em]

zakim, ??P10 is jjc

14:01:42 [Zakim]

+jjc; got it

14:02:27 [danbri]

agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0064.html

14:02:36 [danbri]

em, I can't remember all Zakim agenda-mgnt voodoo...

14:02:44 [danbri]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:02:44 [Zakim]

On the phone I see PatH, Danbri, Emiller, jjc

14:02:44 [DanC]

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14:02:53 [Zakim]

+DanC

14:03:35 [danbri]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:03:35 [Zakim]

On the phone I see PatH, Danbri, Emiller, jjc, DanC

14:04:15 [Zakim]

-DanC

14:04:19 [Zakim]

+DanC

14:05:08 [jjc]

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14:05:13 [danbri]

(discussion of whether we're quorate...

14:05:14 [danbri]

)

14:05:42 [danbri]

em: let's wait till 10 past, if no more attending, -> no formal meeting, but can chat

14:06:52 [DanC]

let's review actions from last week.

14:07:06 [danbri]

danbri: jjc, any progress w/ minutes?

14:07:12 [danbri]

jjc: sorry not yet, bad week

14:07:21 [danbri]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0057.html

14:07:45 [DanC]

actions are in http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-irc

14:07:47 [danbri]

em: lets convene, do a round of action items

14:08:11 [danbri]

http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-actions

14:08:43 [danbri]

danbri: no movement on rdfs actions

14:08:50 [danbri]

jjc: nor mine

14:09:01 [danbri]

all continued

14:09:08 [em]

all http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-actions continued... no progress

14:09:16 [gk]

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14:09:31 [DanC]

let's not sit around and get depressed about how little we've done in the last week. let's just call it a day.

14:09:59 [Zakim]

-DanC

14:10:08 [gk]

Oops, got delayed, dialing... (maybe not for long?)

14:10:39 [danbri]

danbri: i plan to spend tuesday on rdfs

14:11:16 [Zakim]

+GrahamKlyne

14:12:46 [danbri]

jjc: main task i have for rdfcore is reconstruct Concepts doc, w. input from Gk and merge in issue resolutions.

14:13:37 [danbri]

em: anything we can do to help

14:13:41 [danbri]

jjc: not really!

14:13:46 [danbri]

danbri: jjc, minutes early next week?

14:13:50 [danbri]

jjc: yes, will do

14:14:17 [danbri]

jjc: also ongoing rumblings on xml literal front

14:14:36 [danbri]

...to my suprise and other people's, when asking what value space of xml literal was, it appeared to be string

14:14:38 [danbri]

(?)

14:14:55 [danbri]

..on drilling down further, it should perhaps be Exclusive Canonical XML (a technical term)

14:14:59 [danbri]

pat: a tech q

14:15:07 [danbri]

...our typed literals, do they have a canonical form?

14:15:16 [danbri]

jjc: they are their own canonical form

14:15:33 [danbri]

...resolution of reagle-01/2 is such that

14:15:48 [danbri]

..for each thing in value space of xml literal, there is a unique string in lexical space corresponding

14:15:54 [danbri]

(pls check i got that right)

14:16:02 [gk]

I think that's what jjc said

14:16:15 [gk]

But I find it surprising

14:16:30 [danbri]

em-as-staff-contact, can you confirm we're just talking, this isn't a meeting-meeting?

14:16:44 [em]

i can confirm

14:16:50 [em]

were just talking

14:17:05 [danbri]

jjc: 'one of goals was to move some of that stuff into Syntax doc

14:17:14 [danbri]

'we got rid of a lot of nonsense

14:17:20 [danbri]

pat: 'i can delete a whole section now

14:17:28 [danbri]

jjc: 'got rid of wrapping nonsense recently

14:17:39 [danbri]

gk: for all datatypes?

14:17:45 [danbri]

pat: just xml

14:17:55 [gk]

OK, I'm no longer surprised

14:18:40 [danbri]

danbri: let's stick around for 10 mins...

14:21:24 [danbri]

em: where are latest drafts?

14:21:28 [danbri]

pat: url in my latest msg

14:22:17 [danbri]

jjc: pat addressses issues in semantics doc, but issues list doesn't always track that progress

14:28:34 [danbri]

discussion of tying sem doc back to issues

14:30:42 [danbri]

rrsagent, thank you

14:30:42 [danbri]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'thank you', danbri. Try /msg RRSAgent help

14:35:19 [danbri]

em, aspire to REC by http://www.cc.gatech.edu/ccg/iswc03/

14:35:31 [danbri]

means july 14 for having all docs done/addressed

14:35:47 [danbri]

danbri: you mean that gets us to LC?

14:35:58 [danbri]

oh, i meant PR

14:36:41 [danbri]

em: looking to prepare for both eventualities (2nd lc (just in case), pr...)

14:48:59 [danbri]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:48:59 [Zakim]

On the phone I see PatH, Danbri, Emiller, jjc, GrahamKlyne

14:55:45 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2003/06/13-rdfcore-irc#T14-48-59-1