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13:56:53 <em> but if we dont have a sufficient set of people, not much more we can do
13:58:06 <Zakim> SW_RDFCore()10:00AM has now started
13:58:13 <Zakim> +PatH
14:00:40 <em> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:00:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see PatH
14:00:43 <Zakim> +Danbri
14:00:50 <em> zakim, dial emiller-bos
14:00:50 <Zakim> ok, em; the call is being made
14:00:51 <Zakim> +Emiller
14:01:29 <Zakim> +??P10
14:01:42 <em> zakim, ??P10 is jjc
14:01:42 <Zakim> +jjc; got it
14:02:27 <danbri> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0064.html
14:02:36 <danbri> em, I can't remember all Zakim agenda-mgnt voodoo...
14:02:44 <danbri> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:02:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see PatH, Danbri, Emiller, jjc
14:02:44 <DanC> DanC has joined #rdfcore
14:02:53 <Zakim> +DanC
14:03:35 <danbri> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:03:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see PatH, Danbri, Emiller, jjc, DanC
14:04:15 <Zakim> -DanC
14:04:19 <Zakim> +DanC
14:05:08 <jjc> jjc has joined #rdfcore
14:05:13 <danbri> (discussion of whether we're quorate... 
14:05:14 <danbri> )
14:05:42 <danbri> em: let's wait till 10 past, if no more attending, -> no formal meeting, but can chat
14:06:52 <DanC> let's review actions from last week.
14:07:06 <danbri> danbri: jjc, any progress w/ minutes?
14:07:12 <danbri> jjc: sorry not yet, bad week
14:07:21 <danbri> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0057.html
14:07:45 <DanC> actions are in http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-irc
14:07:47 <danbri> em: lets convene, do a round of action items
14:08:11 <danbri> http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-actions
14:08:43 <danbri> danbri: no movement on rdfs actions
14:08:50 <danbri> jjc: nor mine
14:09:01 <danbri> all continued
14:09:08 <em> all http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-actions continued... no progress
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14:09:31 <DanC> let's not sit around and get depressed about how little we've done in the last week. let's just call it a day.
14:09:59 <Zakim> -DanC
14:10:08 <gk> Oops, got delayed, dialing... (maybe not for long?)
14:10:39 <danbri> danbri: i plan to spend tuesday on rdfs
14:11:16 <Zakim> +GrahamKlyne
14:12:46 <danbri> jjc: main task i have for rdfcore is reconstruct Concepts doc, w. input from Gk and merge in issue resolutions.
14:13:37 <danbri> em: anything we can do to help
14:13:41 <danbri> jjc: not really!
14:13:46 <danbri> danbri: jjc, minutes early next week?
14:13:50 <danbri> jjc: yes, will do
14:14:17 <danbri> jjc: also ongoing rumblings on xml literal front
14:14:36 <danbri> ...to my suprise and other people's, when asking what value space of xml literal was, it appeared to be string
14:14:38 <danbri> (?)
14:14:55 <danbri> ..on drilling down further, it should perhaps be Exclusive Canonical XML (a technical term)
14:14:59 <danbri> pat: a tech q
14:15:07 <danbri> ...our typed literals, do they have a canonical form?
14:15:16 <danbri> jjc: they are their own canonical form
14:15:33 <danbri> ...resolution of reagle-01/2 is such that
14:15:48 <danbri> ..for each thing in value space of xml literal, there is a unique string in lexical space corresponding
14:15:54 <danbri> (pls check i got that right)
14:16:02 <gk> I think that's what jjc said
14:16:15 <gk> But I find it surprising
14:16:30 <danbri> em-as-staff-contact, can you confirm we're just talking, this isn't a meeting-meeting?
14:16:44 <em> i can confirm
14:16:50 <em> were just talking
14:17:05 <danbri> jjc: 'one of goals was to move some of that stuff into Syntax doc
14:17:14 <danbri> 'we got rid of a lot of nonsense
14:17:20 <danbri> pat: 'i can delete a whole section now
14:17:28 <danbri> jjc: 'got rid of wrapping nonsense recently
14:17:39 <danbri> gk: for all datatypes?
14:17:45 <danbri> pat: just xml
14:17:55 <gk> OK, I'm no longer surprised
14:18:40 <danbri> danbri: let's stick around for 10 mins...
14:21:24 <danbri> em: where are latest drafts?
14:21:28 <danbri> pat: url in my latest msg
14:22:17 <danbri> jjc: pat addressses issues in semantics doc, but issues list doesn't always track that progress
14:28:34 <danbri> discussion of tying sem doc back to issues
14:30:42 <danbri> rrsagent, thank you
14:30:42 <danbri> I'm logging. I don't understand 'thank you', danbri.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:35:19 <danbri> em, aspire to REC by http://www.cc.gatech.edu/ccg/iswc03/
14:35:31 <danbri> means july 14 for having all docs done/addressed
14:35:47 <danbri> danbri: you mean that gets us to LC?
14:35:58 <danbri> oh, i meant PR
14:36:41 <danbri> em: looking to prepare for both eventualities (2nd lc (just in case), pr...)
14:48:59 <danbri> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:48:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see PatH, Danbri, Emiller, jjc, GrahamKlyne
14:55:45 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2003/06/13-rdfcore-irc#T14-48-59-1