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Semantic Annotations for WSDL WG teleconference

3 Apr 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
AS, AM, CB, CP, CV, JK, JF, JM, LH, TV
Regrets
BNS, EP, JBD, LF, MK, PM, RA
Chair
JacekK
Scribe
carlos

Contents


Approval of minutes

<JacekK> last minutes: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070320

minutes approved

action item review

<JacekK> ACTION: Eric to upgrade the SPDL page for SAWSDL readers and then work things out with the Usage Guide [PENDING] [POSTPONED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action01]

administrivia

JacekK: wg page updated with content sent so far
... WSDL 2 back to Last Call for 3 weeks
... we get 2 more weeks for getting our spec out at the same time

Joel: WSDL 2 back to LC because of change in the namespace. Does this affect us?

caribou: it is indeed an issue
... we can go back to LC quickly in order to align namespaces or keep the old one and avoid going back to LC

JacekK: to be decided by the WG
... going back to LC would require 3 more weeks probably, plus publication delays

Joel: changes would need to be performed to adapt to the new WSDL namespace in our examples
... not that many for the spec

John_Ajith: what about the implications for implementations? could we just change it without going to LC?

JacekK: that's not the formal procedure
... Should we change the namespace as well and go back to LC?

RESOLUTION: we will republish and go to LC due to namespace changes

<JacekK> ACTION: JacekK to send transition request for LC publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action02]

JacekK: we don't really have to republish the examples since it's a WG note
... we can therefore wait in this case

Implementation status

JacekK: DERI has just published a WSMO Working Draft which includes SA-WSDL grounding
... mainly uses modelRef

<JacekK> http://www.wsmo.org/TR/d24/d24.2/v0.1/#grounding_sawsdl

JacekK: future version to be published with more complete use

WSDL 2.0 parsers:

Ajith: Woden is being restructured
... will take a while
... possible solution to branch their code somehow

JacekK: possibility to publish somehow the patches
... could be considered as a valid implementation
... second parser could be the WSMO4J one or WSDL 2 XSLT-based parser

WSDL 1.1 parsers:

Ajith: currently have an extension on WSDL4J
... tests will probably be available in a couple of days

carlos: BPEL4SWS document making use of SA-WSDL to be released soon to the rest of the WG

Future of the WG

JacekK: we can suggest new WG, new work for our WG, etc
... we need very concrete documents
... proposals more than welcome
... there already exists a proposed WG for defining a service modelling language
... we have no clear relationship to it

Amit: hoping to work on Incubator on Preconditions and Effects to come up with a more concrete proposal

JacekK: we could point from SAWSDL to this Incubator and close SAWSDL WG
... concrete proposals for SA of Policies?

Ajith: ongoing work. Something concrete in a month

Joel: our namespace does not exist as a web page yet

caribou: request for approval to be sent

<JacekK> ACTION: caribou to create the namespace page for /ns/sawsdl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action03]

<JacekK> ACTION: JacekK to send approval request for namespace /ns/sawsdl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action04]

Amit: people are welcome to join the Incubator

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: caribou to create the namespace page for /ns/sawsdl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: JacekK to send approval request for namespace /ns/sawsdl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: JacekK to send transition request for LC publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action02]
 
[POSTPONED] ACTION: Eric to upgrade the SPDL page for SAWSDL readers and then work things out with the Usage Guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070403#action01]